I didnt watch the game so cant comment on Fev's performance. What I will say though is that generally speaking the ABC commentators are more fair on players than most. If they play well they get praise, if they feel as if the player isnt performing to expectations/a certain standard they will get a bake.

Though according to some on here, all commentators who ever criticise our players for poor performances are only doing so because they are bitter/twisted or have chips on their shoulders - particularly when Fev is involved.

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Fev was magnificent on Friday at training. He trained well & spent 40 minutes signing autographs & talking to kids.

He was not under the weather in any way at all.

It was a warm & sunny day and he had at least 60 kids/mums at any one time crowding around him for photos & autographs.

After every other player had left the oval a club official approached him and told the crowd that FEV had to leave. The official said "come on Brendan it's time to go in, you've done enough, you're too generous with your time."

In no way was Fev anything but professional at training on Friday.

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I know that this wasn't aimed at me but I would have said it was fair.

Not spectacular, but as far as I could see from the TV he put in a fair effort. He had one or two moments where he was complaining to the officials, but it wasn't unwarranted.

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Fev, being a senior player, needed to realise that having three blokes on him was not helping the side.

Fev, being a skillful player, needed to realise that if his side was going to get back into the game, he needed to get his hands on the pill - anywhere he could.

Fev, being a selfish, petulent little turd, plonked his arse in the goalsquare all day and looked un-interested unless he could make a long-ish lead and gobble a piss-easy chest mark.

Fev, being a dullard, seems incapable of anything but the traditional full forward.

You might say that Ratts got caught in the quicksand when Cloke went to the goalsquare and Fev lined up in-between him and the 50m arc (thus, mirroring Adelaide's set-up) but at the end of the day, good players know how to get themselves into the game.

Sure, Fev chases hard - and what a great sight it is to see - but I would imagine that is just to keep his legs warm. I would prefer to see a bit more work being done to create space up forward.... He could just as easily be the one pushing up to the wing with Fish staying at home in the square. Fish seems to be the only forward capable of hanging on to the high bombs anyway. But, I doubt this would sit well with the great Carlton champion full forward - who is as consistent as my nana's soufle.

Having the ball coming in from the wing all day made it a challenge for him, but there were plenty of times when Fev had the opportunity to present an early lead - something different - and he missed the boat.

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Labelling Fev as a "selfish, petulent little turd" and "dullard" doesn't help your argument, it dilutes it.

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And Crusader, how do you know that Ratts' specific instructions to Fev weren't to be exactly where he was? Leader or not, do we want him pissing on the coach's gameplan?

Fair dinkum, Fev is our own Richo.

Every other side in the league would kill to have him in their side and we like to pot him every chance we get. No one harder on Fev than his own supporters.

Hands up who has a frustrating day at work every now and then?

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I think you spotted exactly why we haven't been winning games over the last 6 years: Fev is inviting the opposition players to huddle around him. He, single-handedly is responsible for the setups of opposition teams.

It's so obvious. Why haven't we seen this before?

Fev is The Mole!

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Fair comment... But this is hardly the place for quality arguements. If it was, I would have just said that Fev needs to become less one-dimensional... Unless he can learn a few new tricks, he will be seen as the football equivalent of a flat track bully.



Do you reckon, if Judd had a thought on how to break a hard tag, that he would wait for instructions? Common sense has to play some part in football - FFS, its not the public service..... I refuse to believe that Ratts' specific instructions would have included the words:

"Fev, if you can't get a kick, don't change anything."
"Don't suggest to the runner or anyone else capable of relaying a message back to me that you might have an idea on how to break this triple team."



OK. i'll take the bait....

Do you reckon they would huddle around him if he was up on a HFF?... do you think that if Fev was just a little more selfless, they might be a little more accountable to their direct opponent?

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Relax, I was just having a bit of a giggle on a Monday after a disappointing loss.

I wasn't having a go at you, so I hope you didn't take offence.

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We all know that Fev has been double & triple teamed every week & that is frustrating to watch. Previously our forwards, namely Fisher, Carlos & Cloke when he went forward were good at leading to the other side of the ground & taking their opponents with them while also letting Fev have the space to run to lead. On several occassions before Hartlett went down he led to exactly the same spot as Fev, which meant Fev had to not only contend with his opponent & a loose man, but Hartlett's opponent too! This absolutely kills me!!! Our forwards need to be smarter & it astounds me that I can see this but Hartlett can't.

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fisher often leads into fevs space too

we drag opponents to fev - he is one big man magnet

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

It should be quit simpl, bgd, Hartlett is told to stay out of Fev's space. If he doesn't he gets dropped - end of story. It's up to the coaches to make sure this doesn't happen.

I'd like to see Fev make a lead and Fish or Hartlett lead into the space that Fev started from. That space was occupied by Fev and several opposition defenders so should be quite open and vacant by the time they have all left .

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I often wonder how many of the posters in this thread went to the game or even watched the game?

For those that did would have realised that the conditions was a bit blustery which meant some kicks floated and others dropped and it was not easy going for many of the players. Alot of Adelaides goals came from free kicks, which take out the conditions and marking contests.

Fev chased as much as any player in blue on the day, funny how some of the same idiots on this site seem to think it's OK to dump on Fev and yet wheres the posts on how Kruiser fluffed a couple kicks resulting in goals for Adelaide or Murphys poor disposals or how loose Gibbs was playing on goodwin.

But I am not dishing on any of our players because up until some of the worst umpiring I have seen in the last quarter we were in the game, even with only 2 on the bench. We were not blown away even though we were well below our best against a very good side and a couple umps thrown in for good measure. Yes we would have still lost, but I still saw the improvement and game plan in place and if you discount the umpires idiotic frees our defence restricted the opposition to under 100 points for the third week in a row.

Fev's always had a tendency to choose when he chases, did so a bit on Sat but far from his worst effort. Anyway it's obviously Jordan Russell's fault, everything else is.

I'm not sure who I will blame this week...maybe Fev, bit of a Russell bash never tires me, though I reckon Kreuz is due for some grief or maybe Gibbs the softcock

Yep that was the ABC team, I'm not sure how McKay was dragged in
Sellers was pretty critical and he has a pretty distinctive voice so I'm not sure why the confusion (perhaps Mckay, Maclure?)

There is much to love about Fev and much that annoys (even off the drink), which is why he is such a polariser. I think the fact that he continued to winge to the ump that it should have been his goal, as the ball was on its way back to the centre after Juddy had already kicked it, that probably summed up his day

Spot on!!

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could I possibly have made a mistake?

Maclure, Mckay, same difference

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