very interesting read - gives a very good perspective on the whole Irish experiment



http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.p ... 1002649999

I agree in regard to the ruck, however, Setanta as a key back in a team that gives midfield pressuer is going to be a completely different player. Nobody can defend against lace out passes with little to no pressuer on the kicker.

He's a good thinker and gives 100% every time he ventures out.

Don't know about Asaike as I haven't seen him play.

_________________
end of message

That article is far off the mark. Setanta should be a gimme selection every week. He is the best big bodied backman we have. Ratten should not have dropped him in the first place

Jake Niall has just been reading some of the negative posts on the Carlton websites and cobbled together an article from them. Its no coincidence that the story has come out now.

I agree MJ. He should not be out of the side and play him at full back.He is a gorilla and thats what we need down there right now.

No player is or should be a gimme selection.

I think that you might find that there is something odd about the whole Setanta situation and there is something not just right.

_________________
“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

The form Setanta showed early last year as a key backman was outstanding. yes he got towelled up once or twice, but didn't SOS get a few bags kicked against him early in his career?

The big bloke must be suffering from a less than ideal pre-season due to illness or injury otherwise he would have to be in our best 22. Jamieson is a good stopper but will not be able to match it with the real big guys on a regular basis. He will be ideal for the second or third tall and could free up Waite for more attacking roles. ( I think Waite would be an All Australian wingman in the mould of Dipper if we tried him out. Imagine opposition sides trying to match him up.

_________________
“Before you criticise someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile a way and you have their shoes."

If there is something "not just right" as you put it then why even pick the guy as a possible interchange?

Yes, no player deserves automatic selection but until we start to know exactly what we are doing with certain players then they, and we, will never get anywhere. People say we want him as a key defender and yet he is picked to play as a forward in the reserves. I'm still trying to come to grips with what we are trying to do with some players; we either pick them and develop them in a position or we don't.

_________________
Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Hey Paf, what's with your sig?

_________________
“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

We've found before that Jake (or someone assisting him) reads the site so I think you're right here.

Say hello Jake, we don't bite

_________________
"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

I wonder...

I haven't had much to do with what your like as a poster so it's not a general dig. I just saw yours and felt sorry for poor old BO.

I just happen to agree with roughly 80% of what he writes even if his methods are repetitive and heavy handed.

I'll keep it up there as long as I see fit. I hope you don't take it too seriously.

_________________
Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

So you think that BO's banning is because he is repetitive and heavy handed?

Why would I take it seriously when you have chosen to take what I have written about BO to heart and felt an epathy to stand up for the dear boy.

_________________
“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Going from all that I have read, yes, it must be.

_________________
Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Enough said.

_________________
“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

anyone else noticed that pafloyal has been piping up A LOT more now BO has been banned?


just putting it out there..........................

_________________
thats pretty bad-ass!

If you think so.

I haven't read all his posts but going from what I've read he wants us to tank and he thinks WH is a poor recruiter. BO barely needs an excuse to mention it.

Like I said, I don't agree with his tactics but I do believe we have recruited poorly. There is nothing in your signature that hints at something that someone deserves to be banned for.

_________________
Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

having a crack at someone in your signature is pretty spineless if you ask me

_________________
Between our dreams and actions lies this world

u wrote em!

_________________
thats pretty bad-ass!

..neither defending nor havin' a crack, but B.O ain't the only person here that's repetitive and prejudgiced in regards to certain carlton elements..

_________________
..if you can't be good, be good at it..

agreed kk - i had written the sig at the height of the GAV and BO thread and had forgotten about until Mr Pavola's comment.

a new sig for this chick.

_________________
“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.