Absolute lunacy. You dont mind them when they go both ways but on the balance of it we were raped. If they are going to do this they should come out before the game and announce it and we would know to rest any injured players etc until the next fair contest.

Eddie Betts was absolute comedy gold and the one where 2 blokes tackled the Scum guy and he whips out the 'Willie Mason special' to the bloke running past (after 3 seconds of struggling on with 2 guys hanging onto him) would make the NRL highlights reel.

The 50 against Bower I'm still wondering about. I assume they thought he intentionally carreened into the guy's back but in real time confirmed by the replay you can see there was very little if any contact, indeed it looks like Bower is trying to avoid contact.

Disgrace that I pay my money to see a contest and these @rse clowns decide the outcome. If nothing else the club should ask for an explanation of the decsions made. I accept that umpires need to be protected to encourage the development of jnr umps etc but this is sport at the highest level and these guys should be accountable to us, the passionate supporters that bankroll the entire competition. If i did my job as badly as those guys did theirs on Sat night i'm sure i'd have questions to answer.

Next week Ratts should very carefully let the world know we arent happy. Something along the lines of:

"we think the development of umpires is very important, we support the AFL's rules regarding comments on decisions etc and we thank the AFL for their efforts thus far. Anything that can be done to improve the current level of umpiring is fully supported by the CFC"

Then just walk away. Let the press do the rest. Any questions from Docklands/Age/Herald Sun/Channel 9 etc should be reponded to with a transcript of the above. No more comment. If you did that Channel 9 would replay all of the incidents in detail on TFS to try and see what we were on about, SEN would have on Humphrey Smith to talk through each of the decisions and if there was enough hoo haa then you'd expect the Spew to make one of his 'Nero like' there's nothing wrong but we're looking into it' statements.

I can understand the one before the bounce, Scoots should not have been so silly, but Eddie Betts, FFS, Comedy Gold, as somebody else said, if Feva did that to Jetta he'd be out for 4 weeks.

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was actually called taking his legs out/tunnelling (from the replay)

The Scotland free before the game was curious...

If the umpire paid a free because he thought Scotland had hit him - report him!! If it was not reportable, there surely was no free kick...

Thought it was great that our boys just got on with it, tho...

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The problem is was that Nero was fiddling with his fiddle - "The Spew" is fiddling with something else ..........

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Yeh that's what I mean; he called him for tunnelling but he made no contact with him, he just took his eye off the ball.

You can't expect anything less from that diving hack Monfries.

Personally I'm happy that they aren't. They're showing just how professional they are by simply getting on with the job and not pissing and moaning like Malthouse and Laidley.



Well, he kinda did. He mentioned that we had our best run of the game when the umpires let the game flow, and that the free kick count was strangely lop-sided for such an open contest. Essentially, he's very nicely saying that we got flowered.

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KB continually says that umpires make mistakes just like players - but we don't call for the players to be sacked or dropped if they make mistakes do we? Noooooooo KB, we love players that make mistakes that cost us games - @#$%&! wit!!

Umpires need to be accountable weekly, just as coaches and players are. Ratts needs to do a press conference like Shitethouse did where he asked for clarification on some decisions so he could teach his players what was right and wrong.

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Agree 100% donstuie.

Thought he handled it very well - as opposed to Laidley who clearly got told by the club to can it.

KB can not credibly comment on this - he's totally compromised because the umpires are left to pick up the pieces and try and make the most of his ridiculous rule changes.

At one point he said that umpires don't change focus on different rules throughout the season and that players 'get better' as the season goes. He then went on to say that the general public aren't confused byt he umpiring - even Huddo went off at him when he said that - he's a fool.

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Interesting to see teh spread of Frees

we got [REDACTED] over again seems to be standard when we play the Bombers

Bombers Frees
D50 - 3
Mid - 20
F50 - 3
00F - 1
Total 27 (4 in Forward 50)

Bues
D50 - 1
Mid - 13
F50 - 0
00F - 0
Total 14

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And for those who saw the replay (only seen the 1st qtr thus far)............... Voss was a complete flowerwit....."YEP correct decision, he took his eye off the ball".....WHAT THE FLOWER - ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????

Maybe he took his eye off the ball momentarily (I didn't notice it) only cos he was about to be collected by a 195cm giant.....but he didn't impede Fletchers run at any stage.

Worst decision in the history of world sports ever!!!!!!!!!!

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Took his eye off the ball to see who's knee just cannoned into the side of his head.

I'd hope that privately we'd be questioning some of the decisions with the umpiring department.

It doesn't need to be done publicly.

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How obviousl is that!!! Eddy is touching somebody in a Black & Red Guernesy inside our defensive half.

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Gieschen is an unmitigated incompetent fool who has failed at every football job he has ever done - playing football, coaching football and now coaching/directing umpires.

The fact that he has been sacked from all these positions reasonably quickly and still holds his position at AFL House leads me to think that he must have pictures of Demestrispew deflowering goats and Anderson deflowering himself.

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Very good post. They had double the free kick count by half time already.

The worst decision was the one to Lloyd for Jamison "holding the ball".

Yes, he had 1/1000ths of a second after he grabbed it and within that time he obviously had prior opportunity to dispose of it.



They had 3 free kicks in the forward line - any idea how many of those resulted in goals?

I would have to say that was the worst umpired game I have been to in at least 5 years.

3.

They must have had 3 where the next posseession after a free was a goal and about 6 where a goal was started by a free somewehere on the field without Carlton touching the ball

Buzzaaah, that is interesting. They won by under 3 goals and my guess is that at least two of those free kick goals were dubious at the very best.



Yes, I think the best player for Essendon* on the night were their friends dressed in yellow.


Shame about the 34 minute plus 3rd quarter. Must have been a long time ago that Carlton last played in one of those.