Can't understand all this hoo-ha about an away jumper. I thought you all wanted them....gee I've missed something again. I must start taking more notice.

As noted I've no problem with the clash strip. And I really think people calling the jumper insipid are being a bit churlish. It is the bodies inside the jumper that make it insipid, not the jumper itself. The @#$%&! colour is irrelevant, having the CFC logo on the front is the ONLY thing that should matter. If our logo is on the jumper then the players should give a shit.

Honestly, the whole "but we're the navy Blues" line is something you'd expect from far less advanced minds ... even if it is Greg Swann saying it:

Clash could cost Blues
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I think it is a sad indictment on our club's character if the colour of our jumper dictates the pride we all feel when our team is playing. Carlton is not Carlton because of the colour of its jumper. Carlton is Carlton because of our success and our long history. I do love the navy blue guernsey, but that s not the reason I love the club. Not even close.

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Agree wholeheartedly CB. I like the idea of the "clash" strip and I reckon the white jumpers are ok.

Better than many of the other away guernseys some other teams have come up with over the years.

I remember going to a Carlton - Collingwood game a few years back and when the players had their backs to you there was no way of telling the difference. It was ridiculous!

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Swanny - you're working for Carlton not Collingwood! Yes, i know it's in the theme song - but i'm prepared to move with the times...change it up - it doesn't have to be white next year. What gets me is that Swann has waved the white flag against Melbourne. Melbourne FC have been going progressively navy - to such a point that they are more navy than us. The Sunday footy show last week featured a Melbourne player (Brock McLean?) and Bryce Gibbs. The Melbourne players polo shirt was a hell of a lot more navy than Bryce's....go back to the Melbourne jumper of the 60's, 70's, 80's and early 90's and you'll see a more royal blue. Would it hurt them so much to drop the stolen navy and revert to their traditional jumper for their round 5 clash? I think that'd be a win/win for all concerned.

I am with Swanny 100% Camel. Everything about Carlton is Navy Blue. That's our name and that's what we are. The Navy Blue is the best looking strip in the comp (hell even Tim Watson on SEN this morning conceded that). Not only is the strip the best looking in the comp, in the old days when we had men and not boys (not saying that to take a shot, that's just the way it is in terms of bodies) playing for us, it was also the most intimidating strip.

The only team Carlton should be forced to change for is Melbourne on away games, but even then I think there's a case to make them change - there never used to be a problem with us and the Demons clashing until they changed the colour of their blue to a shade very close to ours.

The AFL have some very bad marketers advising them at the moment it seems. The key brands in the league are the clubs - patrons of the league identify with the clubs, not the AFL. The AFL should not be diluting the branding efforts of the clubs by dictating alternate strips when they aren't absolutely required (unless that's a path the clubs want to go down of course). Another case of the league on a power trip and making decisions for the sake of making decisions and not adding any benefit to the game.

I like the jumper and openly admit it.

However I love what Swanny is doing. This isnt just about the jumper its telling the AFL to get [REDACTED] much in the way Sticks told the world. Its telling them we wont be bent over and reamed by them ever again.

It telling them "Were Back and Watch Out"

Hey Bunks thats becuase Collingwood keep changing their Jumper - they caused that problem not us. There the one who should change not us.

Melbourne always traditionally wore a Dark Blue - it was only in the 70s that they changed to a lighter Royal Blue (this was supposedly to look better when Colour TV came to Australia). They went back to their traditional Dark Blue in the Mid to late 80s.

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AGRO, I bow to your superior knowledge...

Let's change for Melbourne away games then and tell the AFL they can flower off when it comes to any other match.

I hate the white jumper too.... I'd stomach a silver/blue strip though, but I believe the AFL said Silver is not a permitted colour.

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We need a clash top, that's all that needs to be said.

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I like anyone who tells the AFL "TO GO AND GET KNOTTED"

So whilst I was previously ambivalent to us having a clash strip - I take the view of anything that annoys the shit out of the AFL is fine with me.

You tell em Greggy.

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I guess if that is the case then that's a fair call mate.

This is just one topic that will continue to divide us supporters.

I don't really care if we wear bloody pink jumpers (well, I kinda do) as long as we start winning!!

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What I dont understand is,,,, in the past 100 years of football why is it now that we have been asked to wear an alternate jumper,,,,which is apparently because of jumper clashes.

Is it because todays players a color blind????,,,,I dont think so !!

There is gotta be something in it for someone for such a bullshit idea !!!!!!

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The white strip is a fashion statement for summer and looks good on the street.

I'm with Swanny on this.

WE are THE OLD DARK NAVY BLUES. Keep it that way!!

It's who we are.

The comments that we have to move with the times....I say "says who?", and, what's wrong with our Dark Navy Blue jumper? Why change something if it's not broken?

It's who we are. It's a BRANDING and NAME. Don't dilute it.

Keep the front Dark Navy Blue, and change the back if they have to against the Demons.

Really, the Demons should paint their legs below the knees in RED color if they can't keep their socks up! That'll solve the problem.

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I'm with the great Swanny. For all those saying to get with the times and adapt to the clash jumper scheme, i say read your history books first. The only reason we are called the Blues is because we wear the Blue jumper, that is the only reason. I don't care what Man Utd do with their money making idea, but our name is blue, our colours are blue, our blood is blue and our jumper should be too.

GO SWANNY you legend

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Is it really that big a deal for 5-6 games a year?

I just don't see what the big fuss is, and it has nothing to do with getting with the times, but is just about, well, it doesn't really matter, because I just don't see it as a big deal.

These are the things about the club that I love. In no particular order...

16 Premierships.
One of the traditional "big four" clubs.
Our success (okay, we've been shit lately, but you get my drift).
Being a leader in the game on and off the field (see above).
Kernahan.
Silvagni.
Bradley.
Nicholls.
Lappin/Rice (yes, I love the service these blokes gave our club with the resources their bodies gave them).
Christou-Dean-Sexton.
The way we looked after Motts and Des English in 1987.
The near perfection of season 1995.
The Barassi revolution.
The first club to win three flags on the trot.
Six flags in my lifetime.
Sticking it up the Bombers, a la 1999.


Of all those things listed above how many have been directly affected by the colour of our jumper? Absolutely none of them!

The jumper is great and I do love it the dark navy with the white CFC. But I love all those things listed above much more because they are the things that make the jumper great. Without all those things, and more, the jumper would represent nothing. No matter how good our jumper looks, without our history, it is worthless. Just a lifeless piece of fabric.

So, the way I see it, our jumper could be anything, black, white or brindle, but if it is our official jumper then it matters to me. The jumper is a representation of our great club ... it is NOT our great club. The men that play for our club, play for the club and what it represents. The jumper is just one small piece of that puzzle.

Let's not overreact at what is ultimately a minor inconvenience. We have far greater things to be focusing on than the colours we wear on the weekend. Moreover, if we win #17 in a white jumper I couldn't care less. I want our club back winning grand finals. That, and only that, is the ultimate aim. If it's done in a different jumper to our preferred colours I, for one, won't be complaining.

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Sorry but I haven't said go "Pratt pack" for a while so .... "GO PRATT PACK", get it done.