Juddy gave Stevo a little bit of advise (spray) for arguing with the ump and looked to let Stevo know that as a leader of the club, giving 50s away is poor example to the rest of the playing group.

Then went on to stevo after the goal was kicked and told him not dwell upon it, lets get one back etc.

Another example of why he is the best choice as Captain.

ive got no real issues with the free...sure its tough but they pay them like that every week.

im a bit sick of the "you cant swear" policy. theyre all grown men. stevens says "you're @#$%&! kidding me!?" and gives away a 50...its not under 12's...the guy is at an age where you can use whatever words you want. the AFL needs to stop this precious sensibilities bullshit they keep harping on about.

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I have a massive issue with the free. You have to tackle correctly and Stevens got beaten around the head during the tackle ... it should have been a free to him. I suggest that is why he was so ropeable.

I have an issue with the trend for penalising a team because a player says something to the umpire. The ump is not supposed to be the opposition. Penalties for infringements against an official should be dealt with at the tribunal.

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agree 100% seanpb. WTF?!?! These are 20-30 year old men... not little kids... its riduclous and is turning our game more and mroe into netball. its bad enough you cant wrestle with the opposition without getting a ridiculous fine, now you have to wathc what you say... soon they'll be drinking tea and eating scons before the game, as the AFL require tea party obgligation to be filled.

Like I said its turning into netball, I used to watch all AFL games with some sort of passion as i lvoe watching good football(espeically in the 90's, good hard football), now I don't really have a passion for the game as such as it reminds me of basketball more and more, now I just twice as much passion for the Carlton Football Club and only the Calrotn Football Club.

Doesn't matter if the saints player shived stevo, umpires don't change their minds, and when rules on backchat are set during the week you can assume that they'll be reasonably itchy on the trigger. He turned a free kick into a goal conceded, and he isn't playing well enough to be giving up goals.

THe problem was that Max had a lot harder sooks a the umpire than that and got away with it. Watch the first and second quarter again.

Max Hudghton has made a career out of choppng arms, hands in the back and tunnelling. Now those things are taken away from him, all he can do is sook and whinge to stop the umps paying frees against him

hudghton is a sook who gets away with murder against fev cos he's portrayed as a good bloke.

quarterbrain ranted and raved at one where max literally had fev wrapped up in a bear hug as fev dived forwards to mark. according to qtrbrain "what else was hudghton supposed to do?" ... not sure that holding a bloke around the waist EVER constituted a legitimate attempt to spoil.

on the steven's decision, the ump was, typically, on the wrong side of the pack and couldn't see x-factor's arm over steven's neck. to compound things, the ump said that the free was paid cos stevens scooped the ball in. this was ALSO incorrect cos stevens had gathered the ball while on his feet. the 50 was paid cos of the snarling face stevens made at the umpire while lying on the ground (the "what for" came after the 50 had been paid). this, i suppose, is in line with the new puritanical interpretation (see mcveigh against north) which will typically be "relaxed" (ie replaced with the new interpretation of the month) down the track.

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I used to work with a lady who was related to one of the aints fitness staff a few years ago, and she told me that Hudghton was the biggest sook he had ever seen. This was back in the wake of the "oh poor Maxxy is crying cos they lost again" too, when he was everyone's darling.

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I can't believe the attitude of you guys. We are not here to judge whether it was a free or not, but reminstrating with the ump after the free was given. I know it's a passionate game and I feel that way when I'm watching, but history tells you that the more you do it, the less sympathy you get from the umps. Fev doesn't get anywhere near the frees he deserves simply because of the abuse and sooking he's dished out to the umps in the past. It doesn't help your game or your teams game by showing dissent to the umps and Judd was right in letting stevo know irrespective of what you think of the decision.

FWIW The AFL has problems with recruiting umps because although they have plenty of guys in the under 15-16's willing to umpire the game, by the time they reach 18 over 80% have given up the task, mainly due to the canning they recieve both on and off the field. If we want the standard of umpiring to improve, then we must start respecting them and their role in both AFL level and more importantly at junior level.

..like it or lump it, i doubt there's any sport other than afl where you could really tell an ump/ref what you thought of their decision in the way footy players do..the sport has been very slow in stamping it out.. ..it's not a case of being soft for the umps in that regard.. ..the way it's soft for umps i believe is how players/coaches can't criticise their decisions after a game..that's crap..

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..btw, that free shoulda gone stevo's way.. ..but like another said, you win some you lose some..

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Ouch!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

Not only did Hudghton go off like a pork chop in the first quarter, but the bloke who got pinged for hands in the back against Murphy did the same. No 50 given.

Their inconsistency is what drives everyone mad.

How are the players meant to know what's going on when not only do things change from week to week, they actually change during the game?

Exactly i hate basket ball,they messing too much with AFL,they taking all the toughness out of the game.There is no issue with a player going hard as long he doesn't purposely try making someone a cripple or do a dangerous high tackle.

I want to see some players do what John Worsfold used to do.

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the point of it all is that you don't give the morons an excuse to pay their pathetic 50 metre penalties. bullshit free or not, you cop it and move on. as others have said the culture of the AFL players to abuse umpires is an area that the AFL as a whole really lets itself down. In many aspects the AFL is a leader within the sports community, but the disrespect for umpires by the players lags a long way behind.

having said that, I hate the bastards. F@#$ing Maggots

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