dannyboy wrote:
Its pointless arguing with you guys because you want to see everything as equal when it clearly isn't. And you do not wish to consider the other side. Bath water - well gee Synbad try and think what I might mean , I am certain you can, but you don't want to, ranting is far easier.
And Josh I have respect for your opinions but to think its been 7 years is wrong I am afraid. Its been 7 years to get the list right - thats shit I agree, but that is how long it took this stupid club. If we lose patience now we will end up a Richmond, ditching coaches and teams as regularly as some people change hairdos.
If we trust the list we have now got then we must give them time, I think a year (and thats all it is, not 7) is not asking too much.
We are the Hawthorn model not the Essendon* model - and it is a very different model. Add Clarkson and Schwabb - how long did it take them? How long Clarkson before their game plan made sense? Do you remember that game against them in his first year, they played ring a ring a rosie - looked stupid didn't it, and now they are as direct as it gets.
This will take a full year, I suggest you go away for a holiday come back when its over. At the end of this year the game plan will begin (yes begin) to solidify so that under pressure/when fatigued/when there are no options/ it will be this game plan the plays automatically fall into, choosing the options that their teammates will understand because they fall into it to.
How long ago were people asking for Bomber Thompson's head - yet we expect Ratts to gel this group in weeks not years....
The genius of Paul Roos, to me is that if you never rebuild (that horrible phrase) if you never tank ( a worse phrase) then every player is always playing for the team. We have lost that and now we have to work to get it back. It isn't a switch but its integral to team sports.
The scary part is that if you are both right and Ratts isn't the man, or worse, its the club's culture, then we are about to become the new Melbourne. I do not think you are right, I just think you are hasty. I think Ratts will need a lot more time. I think the players will need a lot more time.
G'day guys, I'm a first-time browser of this forum and with all due respect to Synbad and Abaddon, I think it's way too early to panic- and I agree with Danny's summation of where we are at this point. With the damage caused by the initial penalty of the AFL in 2002 and furthermore, the club stymied by an instrangient and inflexible Pagan, we are still a way behind. However, look at Richmond- give credit's when its due; they were up for the win after feeling so "wronged" from last season and they did have a solid pre-season (except for the performance against the Aints in the NAB).
Synbad, you do have a point- where was the passion, the spirit and the desire to bleed for the jumper and for the teammate. Maybe, that's what we need to judge Ratten on for this season, apart from his gameplan- I'd say the spirit of unity and the Blues was probably bludgeoned by Pagan and his co-horts. If anyone witnessed P's pre-game speech at the last Optus Oval game in 2005 will know what I mean. Anyway, thanks for letting me have my piece and...GO THE BLUES!
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