Pros:
- Murph showed in the first half how dangerous he will be this year not having to cope with a hard tag every week
- Stevo looked overweight and unfit but still has the vision and skill
- Houlihan's goal from 40 m out took me back about 6 years
- Thought Bannister played a good game on Deledio
- We got Judd!

Cons:
- Still too many players can't kick properly (Carrazo, Thornton)
- Desperately need someone to come in and teach most of the team how to stick a tackle
- Judd looked very uncomfortable in his movement
- Struggled to run out the full quarters

even robert walls reckon we have a winner here! and i agree on what little i have seen

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one you knock back is one you never have

and had fev and edwards not messed one another up a goal would have put us only a point down.

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one you knock back is one you never have

pro: we're not melbourne


con: we didnt play melbourne

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Yay we can beat melbourne. we're on track now. yiiiiiiiipppeeee

i bet you're the guy who sits behind bax at the footy

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

well, a wise Carlton coach once said that Bailey didn't inherite Phar Lap did he


also

Pros.

at least 4 passes that travelled 40 metres, no higher than 3 metres and hit someone on the tit. More in one game than I saw all season in 2007 (2006,..5,..4,...3)

Cons

still plenty of kicks that went over heads or dropped short
missed old sticky fingers Fisher who is the only player that's been able to grab "those" passes

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Greg Lee

Well I finally got around to watching the replay...switched it off after Eddie's running goal in the 2nd. Thought we looked really good, can't understand why everyone's being so negative.

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The two blatant examples were Waite running one way and being comnprehensively outmarked by Hughes running with the flight becasue Hughes wanted it more and Gibbs dropping a simple mark at half back because he took his eyes off it. The tigers rushed it forward and get a goal. Overall our intensity was pathetic, Richmond's intensity allowed them to turn the game around by 50 points. Most disappointing aspect of the game. You don't need talent to be as intense or to try as hard as your opponent (Just ask Wiggo). Our tackling was a good example of our attitude.

The first thing Ratts has to do is getting them to be as desperate as their opponents.

I think on many of his failed kicks he had a lead in a tiny bit of space but he still had options in midfield. I'd much prefer, particulary for someone like Carrots, for him not to aim at the 20% chance 30 metre spear pass but to handball to Stevens (in one case) who was on his shoulder and in space.

I'm all for kicking to good leads but I also think some players need to play within their limitations. Carrazzo is smart but as we all know his kicking isn't precise. We needed to find ways for Houlihan or Stevens or Scotland to be brought into the running-down-the-wing play to make a better first of a low probability lead. Either that or take them on themselves - in the case I'm thinking of the 2 only had 2 Tiger in front of them, and another in front of Fev - they could have created something between them.

I'm surprised by the number of people who are saying that Thornton can't kick. He is technically a very sound kick and usually hits his targets well. The problem on Thursday night was that he made some shocking decisions and therefore turned the ball over.
I remember one specific incident where he had the ball about 20m out from goal. Simpson was all on his own near the boundary line 50m out. Thornton chose not to kick to him, ran another 20m, all options were suddenly covered and as a result he kicked it to space where Richmond regained possession. This was not a bad kick, it was a bad option. 1st option is usually the correct one.

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Don't blame it on the sunshine, don't blame it on the moonlight, don't blame it on the good times, blame it on the WIGGINS!

Good teams playmakers (Geelong Hawthorn WC) all have great disposal. After last season I considered Carrotts had improved his disposal to at least 'reasonable'.
I thought that with another pre-season and practice he could improve his decision making/disposal further and be a genuine elite midfielder/playmaker.
Last Thursday his disposal was generally poor I thought. It may be a one off, I'm hoping, but if it continues we'll have to look for someone else to fill the role.
To be a successfull side it is mandatory for ALL our midfielders/playmakers to have excellent disposal.
Nothing less than excellence!!

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There's so much I could say...

The posters on here bagging edwards must have been watching a different player to me.

A great debut from Jake... well done young man!

In 2007 had the highest kicking efficiency in the team of 89%.

cons

improving kicking efficiency by slowly chipping the ball sideways and backwards under little pressure giving the opposition time to zone up and block rebounding space

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There's so much I could say...

pros

Simmo & Juddy running hard and forward breaking the lines trying to create movement...

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There's so much I could say...

yeah kicking the ball behind him to targets 20 meters away doesnt make you an accurate kick.....

You cant even look at Thornton and point to him for accuracy...he is one of the crabs... doesnt take a risk going forward either by presenting or moving the ball quickly....

.. which of course means if you have to kick it at a 45 degree behind you to find him wide and then he kicks it wide or a chip... theyre setting up...

We dont need that kind of play.. we need it to go to gutbusting runers who can run it 20 to 30 meters and kick it to a players advantage moving it forward swiftly...

This bullshit you kick to me and ill chip it back to you is rubbish....

Were going to get murdered if thats how we load up our defence and setups going forward...

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Pros
Edwards - answered the call with no hesitation
Simmo - comes off the bench and enters the fray at least twice
Setant - same as Simmo, but I only saw that once
Murph - finally, a goal!
Eddie - there should be more crumbers like him
The first 3/8 of the game
Thornton - possession leader

Cons
The last 5/8 of the game
The fact that I can't bring myself to watch the last 1/2 of the game
Thornton - one goal in 110 games!
We lost to the Tiges

agree 100% T-Bird is not the player you want to make these decisions..He never gambles and so it all comes unstuck.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

The stats show our ruckmen were beaten; Richmond's hitouts were to their advantage 33% of the time while Carlton's were only to advantage 15% of the time.

Hopefully Hammer is fit for round 2.