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If anything he should be applauded re Lara Bingle :lol:

Especially when you search for 'those' pictures of Lara... :shock:

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SOFT

I guess nothing's changed. different administration, different players, no ticker, no stand.

Here we go - chance 7,684, 232.

fevola you are a goose. Wake up to yourself.

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SOFT

I guess nothing's changed. different administration, different players, no ticker, no stand.

Here we go - chance 7,684, 232.

fevola you are a goose. Wake up to yourself.


So what are the other chances he's been given for playing up off-field? I'd be interested to hear.


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RE Fevs indiscretions - this is from an article written in 2006 just after the ireland brawl:

Fevola has tested the trust of Carlton fans and officials with off-field disciplinary problems and on-field petulance.

Fevola, whose cheeky personality has made him a favourite on Channel Nine's Footy Show, first found fame for all the wrong reasons in 2001.

Fevola's frizzy 'fro made him easily identifiable as the culprit behind a prank at Victoria University's Maidstone student village in May of that year.

He was labelled pathetic by former president John Elliott after he sprayed a female student leader in the face with a fire extinguisher and fought with security in a pre-dawn incident involving team-mates Matthew Lappin, who is also in Ireland, and discarded Blue Andrew Merrington. "I ran to the foyer, and as I was getting there, the door opened and I saw a guy with dark, curly hair wearing a white top, just before they blasted me with the fire extinguisher," the student said.

"It was really hard, hurting my eyes and my face and I was just trying to get a hold of them and grab them."

In another incident that year, Fevola and team-mate Ryan Houlihan harassed the manager of a North Melbourne dry-cleaner after a big night out.

He was also evicted from a Brunswick hotel amid accusations alcohol had been stolen and staff abused.

In 2004, the Blues punished Fevola when he missed a morning training session shortly before the start of the season.

It was revealed he had been involved in an altercation with Crown Casino security staff six hours earlier while leaving a party which was also attended by Formula One star Michael Schumacher and boxer Anthony Mundine.

This year, Fevola had charges of driving while disqualified dismissed after proving a cancellation notice had been sent to an old address.

He was fined for talking on his mobile phone while driving. (The Australian, 1/11/2006)


so its not exactly an isolated incident - and having dealt with Brendan in a professional capacity last year when he was intoxicated (not a pleasant situation) Its clear what the common denominator is - pretty simple Brendan - just dont drink.

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Take out the driving offences, as they are neither here nor there.

The Crown Casino incident was proven to be quite erroneous at the time.

As for being evicted from a pub, that's hardly even worth typing.


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verbs wrote:
The Vet wrote:
one word

SOFT

I guess nothing's changed. different administration, different players, no ticker, no stand.

Here we go - chance 7,684, 232.

fevola you are a goose. Wake up to yourself.


So what are the other chances he's been given for playing up off-field? I'd be interested to hear.


Have you been hiding under a rock (or maybe a bushell)? You're not aware of the numerous opportunities provided to a talented footballer that others have not got? Let's start with the fire extinguisher, continue through his performance at teh best and fairest, his behaviour in Ireland, his petulance in Freemantle, and these in the blink of an eye.

Mate he has had more opportunities than he deserves.

the club says "Last chance" . you think they say that because he hasn't had any before.

Try explaining his behaviour to your 11 year old daugther who HAD 25 on her jumper.

Piss poor.

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Like I said in previous trade Fev threads, me heart says keep him, my head says trade him. I love him, but we have to trade him before his value really declines. The chances are he'll stuff up again and we'll get nothing for him. Trade him at the end of the year and get a first and second round pick. This is not a post saying anything bad about his footballing ability - he is a gun. But as a team player, he is absolute idiot. He is just too risky to have on the list IMHO.


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The Vet wrote:
verbs wrote:
The Vet wrote:
one word

SOFT

I guess nothing's changed. different administration, different players, no ticker, no stand.

Here we go - chance 7,684, 232.

fevola you are a goose. Wake up to yourself.


So what are the other chances he's been given for playing up off-field? I'd be interested to hear.


Have you been hiding under a rock (or maybe a bushell)? You're not aware of the numerous opportunities provided to a talented footballer that others have not got? Let's start with the fire extinguisher, continue through his performance at teh best and fairest, his behaviour in Ireland, his petulance in Freemantle, and these in the blink of an eye.

Mate he has had more opportunities than he deserves.

the club says "Last chance" . you think they say that because he hasn't had any before.

Try explaining his behaviour to your 11 year old daugther who HAD 25 on her jumper.

Piss poor.


I have acknowledge the fire extiguisher incident and the Ireland incident. The first happened 7 years ago and the second five years later.

The best and fairest crap was nothing but a remark he made. FFS, nothing more than a throw away line by a footballer. He didn't punch anyone or turn over tables. How nuts can you be?

And that's it.

His "long track record of off field poor behaviour" is more fiction than fact.


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I love how you continue to ignore his behaviour on the field.
His on-field work ethic since Ratten's become coach has been outstanding.


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verbs wrote:
The Vet wrote:
verbs wrote:
The Vet wrote:
one word

SOFT

I guess nothing's changed. different administration, different players, no ticker, no stand.

Here we go - chance 7,684, 232.

fevola you are a goose. Wake up to yourself.


So what are the other chances he's been given for playing up off-field? I'd be interested to hear.


Have you been hiding under a rock (or maybe a bushell)? You're not aware of the numerous opportunities provided to a talented footballer that others have not got? Let's start with the fire extinguisher, continue through his performance at teh best and fairest, his behaviour in Ireland, his petulance in Freemantle, and these in the blink of an eye.

Mate he has had more opportunities than he deserves.

the club says "Last chance" . you think they say that because he hasn't had any before.

Try explaining his behaviour to your 11 year old daugther who HAD 25 on her jumper.

Piss poor.


I have acknowledge the fire extiguisher incident and the Ireland incident. The first happened 7 years ago and the second five years later.

The best and fairest crap was nothing but a remark he made. FFS, nothing more than a throw away line by a footballer. He didn't punch anyone or turn over tables. How nuts can you be?

And that's it.

His "long track record of off field poor behaviour" is more fiction than fact.


And maybe he players and the club see more than what was mentioned publicly too?

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verbs wrote:
The Vet wrote:
verbs wrote:
The Vet wrote:
one word

SOFT

I guess nothing's changed. different administration, different players, no ticker, no stand.

Here we go - chance 7,684, 232.

fevola you are a goose. Wake up to yourself.


So what are the other chances he's been given for playing up off-field? I'd be interested to hear.


Have you been hiding under a rock (or maybe a bushell)? You're not aware of the numerous opportunities provided to a talented footballer that others have not got? Let's start with the fire extinguisher, continue through his performance at teh best and fairest, his behaviour in Ireland, his petulance in Freemantle, and these in the blink of an eye.

Mate he has had more opportunities than he deserves.

the club says "Last chance" . you think they say that because he hasn't had any before.

Try explaining his behaviour to your 11 year old daugther who HAD 25 on her jumper.

Piss poor.


I have acknowledge the fire extiguisher incident and the Ireland incident. The first happened 7 years ago and the second five years later.

The best and fairest crap was nothing but a remark he made. FFS, nothing more than a throw away line by a footballer. He didn't punch anyone or turn over tables. How nuts can you be?

And that's it.

His "long track record of off field poor behaviour" is more fiction than fact.


well friend, if you are right, he'll be a fantastic asset to the Carlton football Club for many years. If you are wrong, and our failure to suspend him for Judd's first game costs us a flag, we'll all be the worse off.

I guess we will simply have to differ.

I hope you are right.

i fear you are not.

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jim wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I love how you continue to ignore his behaviour on the field.
His on-field work ethic since Ratten's become coach has been outstanding.

Which will be irrelevant if he gets on the piss again... because he will be sacked and we'll get nothing for him. If my understanding is correct, he is only signed to the end of the year so unless we re-sign him asap we are losing leverage in trade negotiations


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jim wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I love how you continue to ignore his behaviour on the field.
His on-field work ethic since Ratten's become coach has been outstanding.


Regardless, this has nothing to do with on-field behaviour.


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Yep -I'm sure it's all been made up, there's no evidence of a pattern of irresponsible, reckless behaviour is there?? There was a documentary made in about 1998 on the ABC that profiled draft camp and I remember a scout saying Fevola had talent but his discipline and maturity were a concern, hence most clubs stayed away. When you're 18 you can be excused for that sort of stuff.... when you're 28 its a bit tired.

I'll openly admit I dont like Fevola - his conduct on the field put me off him very early in the piece. I had a brief moment of respite post 2006 when I thought that he'd finally gotten his act together, but that didn't last long.

My experiences with him last year, just solidified my opinion.

I dont really know why people are trying so hard to defend him - he clearly doesn't give a flower what people think or how his behaviour affects others - if he played for any other side you'd be calling for his head.

He is selfish, immature and more often than not a liability. Hopefully this is the last time, he needs a "last chance" because above all else, he's a waste of talent.

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The Vet wrote:
verbs wrote:
The Vet wrote:
one word

SOFT

I guess nothing's changed. different administration, different players, no ticker, no stand.

Here we go - chance 7,684, 232.

fevola you are a goose. Wake up to yourself.


So what are the other chances he's been given for playing up off-field? I'd be interested to hear.


Have you been hiding under a rock (or maybe a bushell)? You're not aware of the numerous opportunities provided to a talented footballer that others have not got? Let's start with the fire extinguisher, continue through his performance at teh best and fairest, his behaviour in Ireland, his petulance in Freemantle, and these in the blink of an eye.

Mate he has had more opportunities than he deserves.

the club says "Last chance" . you think they say that because he hasn't had any before.

Try explaining his behaviour to your 11 year old daugther who HAD 25 on her jumper.

Piss poor.
Why do you need to explain anything. They're footballers who kick a bag of wind, not the Kings of the universe be bow down to and worship. Parents bring their kids up, not footballers. This is so overplayed. People should put their emotions in their back pocket, get a grip and get some perspective. We've had 27 pages about an almighty footballer that's pissed on a window. Pretty ridiculous when you think about it.


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The Vet wrote:
verbs wrote:
The Vet wrote:
one word

SOFT

I guess nothing's changed. different administration, different players, no ticker, no stand.

Here we go - chance 7,684, 232.

fevola you are a goose. Wake up to yourself.


So what are the other chances he's been given for playing up off-field? I'd be interested to hear.


Have you been hiding under a rock (or maybe a bushell)? You're not aware of the numerous opportunities provided to a talented footballer that others have not got? Let's start with the fire extinguisher, continue through his performance at teh best and fairest, his behaviour in Ireland, his petulance in Freemantle, and these in the blink of an eye.

Mate he has had more opportunities than he deserves.

the club says "Last chance" . you think they say that because he hasn't had any before.

Try explaining his behaviour to your 11 year old daugther who HAD 25 on her jumper.

Piss poor.


"Piss poor" that's actually quite funny!!


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He was very honest in that documentary.

It is bullshit to say he has a long history of poor off-field behaviour. His incidents are minor compared to a number running around the AFl, and have been few and far between.

He has never been charged with assault, and his most violent act was in Ireland and that was minor at the best.

The media love whipping up the fragile mentalities of the weak and exploiting it for all they can. To such an extent that people actually BELIEVE Fevola has had a dozen or so chances when in fact he has only one slightly major incident in his past.


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The Vet wrote:
verbs wrote:
The Vet wrote:
one word

SOFT

I guess nothing's changed. different administration, different players, no ticker, no stand.

Here we go - chance 7,684, 232.

fevola you are a goose. Wake up to yourself.


So what are the other chances he's been given for playing up off-field? I'd be interested to hear.


Have you been hiding under a rock (or maybe a bushell)? You're not aware of the numerous opportunities provided to a talented footballer that others have not got? Let's start with the fire extinguisher, continue through his performance at teh best and fairest, his behaviour in Ireland, his petulance in Freemantle, and these in the blink of an eye.

Mate he has had more opportunities than he deserves.

the club says "Last chance" . you think they say that because he hasn't had any before.

Try explaining his behaviour to your 11 year old daugther who HAD 25 on her jumper.


Hey TV you are so right. The man has had way too many chances and I cannot believe Swannny, the MC and Leadership Group have been so soft. In many ways his off-field discretions are the worst of his many problems.

To me, if he pisses on s nightclub window after one too many schooners then he is just your agricultural grade [REDACTED], however this instance just flys in the face of Ratts trust when he decided to bring him back into the fold.

I say 3 weeks out and AA membership.

@#$%&! him he has tarnished the brand for too long.


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The Vet wrote:
verbs wrote:
The Vet wrote:
one word

SOFT

I guess nothing's changed. different administration, different players, no ticker, no stand.

Here we go - chance 7,684, 232.

fevola you are a goose. Wake up to yourself.


So what are the other chances he's been given for playing up off-field? I'd be interested to hear.


Have you been hiding under a rock (or maybe a bushell)? You're not aware of the numerous opportunities provided to a talented footballer that others have not got? Let's start with the fire extinguisher, continue through his performance at teh best and fairest, his behaviour in Ireland, his petulance in Freemantle, and these in the blink of an eye.

Mate he has had more opportunities than he deserves.

the club says "Last chance" . you think they say that because he hasn't had any before.

Try explaining his behaviour to your 11 year old daugther who HAD 25 on her jumper.


Hey TV you are so right. The man has had way too many chances and I cannot believe Swannny, the MC and Leadership Group have been so soft. In many ways his off-field discretions are the worst of his many problems.

To me, if he pisses on s nightclub window after one too many schooners then he is just your agricultural grade flower, however this instance just flys in the face of Ratts trust when he decided to bring him back into the fold.

I say 3 weeks out and AA membership.

flower him he has tarnished the brand for too long.


What are the other chances? Ireland...and the fire extinguisher incident from 7 years ago?

Can you please elaborate on what else there has been?


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as opposed to the other indiscretions that dont make it to the Herald Sun...

Everytime something like this happens ot not Brendan Fevola, private citizen, its Brendan Fevola - Carlton Footballer....you can argue the fairness of that until you're blue in the face, but if he wants a private life then perhaps he would do well to stay off the footy show and not sell his wedding photos/story of his marriage strife to the tabloids. Lots of other players manager to keep their heads down.

The Club name gets dragged through the mud too - lets see how our sponors feel about their logo showing up at a press conference for a bloke who felt the need to relieve himself on a shop window in front of people - if I was the brand manager, I'd pull the sponsorship.

I think the club missed an opportunity - realistically we are not going to win the flag this year - what harm does suspending him for one match do - at worse its 4 points (we're not exactly immune to losing) but it sends a clear and valuable message that we dont tolerate indiscretions, regardless of who/how good you are.

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