I didn't name names ... but as you bought up Swan - Fevola had a tussle with a barman in Ireland and i'm pretty sure Swan would have heard of that ... and then before the Freo game it was said that Fevola took young players to the casino and was drinking til the early hours. So, in light of the fact that Swan would have known the history he also had an opportunity last year to offer 'support' similar to that being offered today.

But should the club have been supporting Fevola with his demons even before last year? It would appear they should have been.

What exactly has Fevola been up to? The fire extinguisher incident was years ago and since then I can only think of the incident in Ireland and now when he pushed a bloke in the chest.

Can anyone elaborate on these offences he's been committing over and over again?

Why does the club have to babysit him that much? Why couldn't he go get help himself? Does the company you work for provide you these sort of support service?

How about we blame Fev for his own actions? Last time I checked he was a grown adult.

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Great So when it comes to the end of the year, just like in 2006, he gets on the pi$$ with the boys, thinks he can still drink 22 pots of beer in an hour because he hasn't got a braincell in his body to remind him he hasn't touched the stuff for 9 months.

Next thing, man in headlock The sack.

I'd prefer he just learns how to have a social drink and then fook off home. Its a football club for christs sake, 99 blokes and Mrs Caz. It just doesn't work like that.

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

I don't think anyone's listening Verbs.

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

sorry people, i thought the club was interested in 'people management' and getting the best out of their resources. If you can't see that the club have a role to play in developing people as well as footballers then ...

They do take these kids away from their families in many cases, and often at the impressionable age of 17 and then place them in an 'institution' of sorts. They indeed have a duty of care!

The ball is in Fev's court.

I trust in the brainstrust,

I don't like the decision but it may just be the correct decision.

I would like the club to define these sanctions to the media when they're next snooping for a story.

I hope they say:

1. He wont be sacked if he is the victim of an unexpected attack, whether he's drinking or not.

2. He will not be sacked for drinking and celebrating like mad after a Flag victory (as long as he is not the perpetrator)

3. He wont be sacked if he is intoxicated in public from spiked or 'loaded' drinks, probably served by media vultures such as Hutchy or Fatprick.

Poor bastard, He really can't afford to drink out in public, (not even socially) without someone casting doubt or making up stories on how intoxicated he was.

I don't like it...but I'll go along with Swanny and the Carlton leaders.

Come on Fev, you can have a good time without being on the piss; everyone loves the jovial fun loving man you are naturally.

I'm glad I'm not in his boots...I'm having a drink and going out for more, without a worry in the world...sort of.

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The things that have gotten him into the news are as follows:

the fire extinguisher

the drycleaner

Speeding fine

Ireland

Lara

I can't think of anything more.

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I don't know ... i'm not sure i've needed it yet. I'll get back to you ...

The other incidents that come to mind were the accident he had just out of Geelong in 2006 and travelling 60 in a 40 zone. Both pretty minor.

Seems he has the reputation for being a troublemaker, without that many incidents. Maybe its the on field stuff that adds to it.

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You would have to be braindead if you think this is purely due to off-field behaviour, and doesn't in any way involve all the times we've been left tearing our hair out for what he's been doing on the field too. That's the shit that is more detrimental to his teammates than what goes on away from the game, and always rears its ugly head again at some point. Yes, the official line is all about alcohol and what-not, but his behaviour on the field would've played a huge part in this decision.

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Correct decision.
"Pratt pack" must be given a chance to straighten him up. They have that chance now and drawn a line in the sand. Over to you Fev. How much do you want to play for CFC and more importantly be a "premiership" player for CFC.

Will be interesting to see how Fevola performs throughout the 2008 season since he has sworn off the alcohol.

When he was last off the alcohol (due to his baby's pending arrival) he had a wonderful year in front of goal and hopefully he can get back to this form through 2008.

Will be interesting to see how many media reports are made if/when Fevola is a changed man throughout the season and performs as some media reports expect him to perform.

Lastly, I hope that Fevola can stay on the straight and narrow, just perhaps he needs to learn about drinking within limits. In some ways I feel for him as he is a high-profile individual and sometimes we need that "release" to feel comfortable.

With that said, I am not applauding or praising him for his moments of madness but in the end every player on an AFL list is human like the rest of us and can't be expected to be 100% squeaky clean. I am sure there are plenty of players on other lists who still have some hidden skeleton's in their closets...

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Houlihan bugged the dry cleaner.

Lara Bingle shouldn't be taken into account. It has nothing to do with anything or anyone other than Brendan, Alex, the kids and Lara. This is not a gossip mag.

The Ireland incident is the only big thing he's ever done, and it wasn't even something he got charged for, unlke say someone like Dane Swan who was convicted of assault and required to do community service.

Seems he will forever have to pay for a moment of madness in Ireland when he was having marital problems.

You make it sound as though being at a football club is like being in the army. Under lock and key and surrounded by barbed wire fences.

And Fev isn't a 17 year old kid. He's nearly 30 years old, and has been at the club for 10 years. He shouldn't need anymore help. The "these guys are impressionable and don't know right from wrong" holds no water here.

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He's been at the club 10 years and has had one major incident, and recently pushed a guy in the chest.

Scotland has had more off-field incidents than Fevola, and he's only been there 5 years.

All this rubbish about Fevola being a repeat offender, it's media fed rubbish that everyone has swallowed without actually thinking.

When you go over Fevola's off-field incidents there is very little to report.

I love how you continue to ignore his behaviour on the field.

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If anything he should be applauded re Lara Bingle

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Just hope he learns from that, coz if he don't, we wouldn't have to tank, would we?