I heard he came to the Blues because he thought Carlton girls were easier



Oh wait....different Bomber_Now_Blue

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KK , The Sheedy situation was in a completely different league, quite frankly Sheeds was in a league of his own, so you just can't compare Britts to him.....

For what it's worth, I also think Britts was cut free a bit premature..

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We are the Manchester United of the AFL. Attracting glory hunters in their droves!!

Those were my first thoughts too

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I welcome them aboard, lighten up....

Anyone who leaves Carlton is a nutjob though!

Nope, he can flower right off.

In fact, I urge any Carlton supporter that runs into this idiot to let him know in no uncertain terms.

NOT WELCOME

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I certainly do. I don’t subscribe to your naïve and rose coloured recollection of events. They are a true indicator of when football became about $$ that the administration could make, and less about the events on field or value for die hard supporters. I was there at the inception of the Eagles to the point of having a membership and going to every home game in their first 3-4 years. I did this without ever changing my team I may add – I was always Carlton through and through – but many others who were passionate supporters of a ‘VFL’ team jumped off as time went on.



No I meant Eagles supporters – a bigger bunch of turncoats I have never seen. Those Dockers supporters you talk about who change teams are just another cross section of Eagles supporters who in all likelihood had already changed their team once – its no surprise that after a few short years they jumped onto another bandwagon. In reality the supporters you talk about have probably flipped back to supporting the Eagles again anyway. Not to mention the numerous ‘theatre going’ supporters who follow both sides.

Then there are those who can’t get a seated membership at the Eagles so they have decided to become Dockers supporters so as they can go and see their team play. They may just be another phase of turncoat former Eagles supporters, but at least they are practical I guess.

You can dig at the Dockers all you like (as Eagles supporters think it is fun to act like the school bully against the less popular kid on the block), but at least for many they are WAFL supporters following their heart after decades of always supporting Fremantle – the Eagles are just a manufactured business who don’t have any historical relevance to any particular WAFL club.

Had West Perth entered the AFL I personally would have had my loyalties challenged – but some soulless team called ‘west coast’ had no relevance to me … unless of course they one day came to play a team ‘east coast’ who I had no affinity to. How much of the west coast can you see from Lathlain?



Agreed and this is what many Eagles supporters did over their first few years, with a few jumping on as late as the 1992 premiership.



I’m not concerned with those that were WAFL supporters – although I don’t agree with your perception of what a WAFL ‘supporter’ is these days. The majority of Eagles supporters have dropped their WAFL team like hotcakes. They may talk of this mythical team they followed in the 70’s and 80’s but other than stumbling across a score every third week in the newspaper or sitting through a ¼ of WAFL on TV between doing their shopping and waiting for the AFL game to start on channel 10, they couldn’t care less. The majority don’t even know who plays for their WAFL side let alone what number they wear. Next to noone cares about the result of the Sandover medal and if you want to go to the WAFL grand final (which many AFL supporters who claim to follow a WAFL team don’t even bother to do – can you imagine claiming to follow a team and yet not being bothered to go to the grand final even though you are ensured of getting into the ground at an affordable price!!!) you can rock up 5 minutes before the start of play and still get a seat. To say that many Eagles fans are WAFL ‘supporters’ is laughable. Many WAFL teams have membership numbers of well under 2000 people, so I doubt there are many Eagles supporters making ‘donations’ in the form of a membership – they would be in the overwhelming minority.

I am talking about the thousands and thousands of people who passionately supported a VFL team and then switched over the course of the first few years of the Eagles. It wasn’t a mass exodus overnight (although a fair bit of that did happen), but it occurred regularly over the first few years as people attended Eagles games or watched them on TV and then changed their alliances. They just found themselves supporting Collingwood, Essendon* etc less and less each time their team met the Eagles and eventually the transition was complete.

These were legitimate supporters of other teams pre 1987 – they would host grand final parties, fly over for grand finals, listen to games on the radio, watch feverishly any scrap of VFL footy on TV or print in the media. Can you remember how the winners rated through the roof over here???

You would go to footy training (juniors and ammos etc) and although there would be people in WAFL jumpers there were many many more in Carlton, Fitzroy, Richmond jumpers. These people didn’t just buy these jumpers to keep warm, they were seriously interested in these clubs … well over the years it soon turned into the same fellows decked out in a sea of Eagles jumpers.

If ALL Eagles supporters were WAFL supporters, there were almost as many that were VFL supporters also. In the same way that you can support a WAFL team and the Eagles, these people supported a WAFL side and St Kilda (etc) – and then changed their allegiance. You can talk in hyperbole all you like about the genesis of the Eagles but I was there too and I don’t subscribe to your WA media sanctioned view of things.

I have lost count of the amount of times people who when finding out I am a Carton supporter have said ‘I used to support Carlton’. I tell them that they are the worst kind of supporter.



Then I hope you don’t get to Subiaco oval too often … you’d be surrounded by many people who have done the same.

Probably about as much as you can of Princes Park from Leederville Oval.



No they're the ones who have taken second best because of the poxy little stadium we have over here.



Maybe you need to educate yourself and visit http://www.dockerland.com to get an education on which group of supporters is the biggest antagoniser.



Teams are constantly getting new supporters. I imagine the Blues have had quite a few Johnny Come Latelies following their premiership years.



At work and at the footy people still talk about their WAFL team and take an active interest in how they are going. I guess it's the same as you knowing every player in the VFL and what numbers they wear. Let's face it the WAFL and VFL are minor competitions whose main job is to be a repository for AFL players who get dropped or up and coming players of the future.



Now we get to a matter close to my heart. As a long time supporter of western Australian football it used to break my heart to see WAFL teams raided of their star players year after year and then turn around and watch those same Western Australians pull on the Big V and contribute to the humiliation of WA footy (pre State of Origin). So when State of Origin came around and those players pulled on the yellow and black of WA and then beat the invincible Vics it was the greatest feeling in the world. Finally in 1987 we could field our own team in the VFL and watch our star players week in and week out competing against Victorians and watch them do it with pride. Prior to the Eagles people over here did support a Victorian team (me included) but it wasn't with passion it was with interest. Interest in how our local boys were going. Yes we used to watch the winners. It was a great highlight package and again we could watch Buzz taking mark of the year and kicking the goal of the year or marvel at the skills of Leon Baker et al. Our interest was borne by the fact that that was the only way we could watch our best WA boys week in week out. Then along came the Eagles and the flood to Victoria slowed and our boys stayed here to play for our team. You say there is no historical significance in the Eagles. Well I beg to differ. Each player who pulled on the Eagles jumper in those early years was representing over 100 years of football tradition in this state.

*Jumps down from soapbox*



I used to play junior footy in the 70's and then senior footy in the 80's and I can categorically state that the vast majority of jumpers I saw were WAFL jumpers. They were the ones worn with pride. Not those of some distant far away teams playing in some mythical competition we only ever got to see on TV.



See above comment.



You obviously didn't watch the video link I posted otherwise you wouldn't have this ignorant view of events. You could then talk from a factual viewpoint.



Interesting comment. I would subscribe to opposite point of view for all the reasons I have stated above. In fact I think any Western Australian who supports a Victorian, South Australian, Sydney or Brisbane team is the worst kind of supporter there is.



I get there every game the Eagles are playing and to some where they are not and all I see are a group of supporters who follow their team with passion and fervour, probably in much the same way you support Carlton.

I think we have to agree to disagree. You have one point of view on the Eagles and I naturally have a diametrically opposite viewpoint. I think we both follow our teams with passion. You think I am a turncoat but I also think you are for turning your back on Western Australian football and supporting a team whose homeground is 3000km from where you originate. Me, I will always go on supporting WA football as I have always done from the time I was old enough to kick a footy. The development of the Eagles was evolutionary and so has been my support of local football.

I am not a turncoat and nor are the 46 000 paid up members of the Eagles and the 5000 or more that are on the waiting list.

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They have accepted the decision well, the other Essendon* supporters.....

http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index. ... 9581&st=30

You miss my point – Carlton aren’t trying to swindle WA supporters into thinking they are one of us … but it appears you read into the Eagles rhetoric hook line and sinker.



Well you work at a different place to me and socialise in different circles because peoples interest is tokenistic at best as far as I can tell. And again I don’t need to know the numbers of VFL players as I don’t particularly support a VFL team – I know plenty of players numbers from the WAFL team I support though. … even saying that I bet I know more VFL numbers of the Bullants players than many people know of the WAFL team they claim to support.



Just another example of the Eagles ruining the local competition, but you will surely direct me to some internet site full of pro-Eagles propaganda to disprove this despite the fact that few really care about the WAFL competition post Eagles and yet plenty of people clearly did pre-Eagles.



I have always found this argument hypocritical. You support the WA Boys!!!! You are aware that a third of your recent tainted premiership side weren’t West Australians.

This us versus them stuff is garbage and is typical of the brainwashing and lowest common denominator appeal of the Eagles. You don’t get to watch your ‘WA boys’ week in week out any more than you did in the WAFL days. I would suggest that more WA players go interstate than they ever did. And what bout your Fremantle ‘WA Boys’ – shouldn’t you support them as equally as you do the Eagles then?

As an aside I remember the state of origin wins and enjoyed them as much as the next person. I proudly support WA … I just don’t support the marketing machine disguised as a football club in the Eagles. I didn’t and don’t ever wish to change my team in order to do so.



The we obviously had a very different experience, although travelling similar paths.



I have seen that and many other forms of propaganda before. Next you will asking me to believe what I read in the West Australian.



I support the same teams I have always supported since as far back as I can remember … never waned in my support. I will not apologise for that.




That’s fair.Hopefully I’ll bump into you at the Pura Cup cricket though and we can share a beer from the same side of the table.



Actually I don’t think you are a turncoat – we have had this discussion before. I believe you when you said that you never supported a VFL team and were only passionate about the Perth Demons. I don’t understand how the Eagles represents WA football, but you obviously feel that they do (no matter how misguided that view may be ) … so I can’y understand how a seemingly intelligent person like yourself can find themselves in the unfortunate position of being an Eagles supporter, but I don’t think that you personally are a turncoat.



I will support WA footy too. I just don’t feel that the Eagles represent me as a WA footy fan.



You may not be, but a considerable amount of them may be – hell some of them are even noteholders and my relatives.

Can we change Jeeves' username to Eagle now Blue?

Or Mandy II?

You can tell he wants to be one of us so badly...

Yeah, right



If you had watched it you would know it was put together by Fox Footy and not, as you put it, by the "propaganda machine" that you imagine.



Perhaps you should have read my post more carefully. Please read it again.





Are you sure you want to go down this path? I could mention the phrases salary cap, and loss of draft picks in the same sentence but out of respect to the readers of this site I won't.

Anyway that's the end of the subject as far as I am concerned, however back to original topic, the guy is a loser and should continue supporting his own team thru thick and thin.

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ive always said its pretty simple. if you like a sport you pick a team to follow because of any number of reasons: you like the jumper, theyre local, you like 1 or more players, your family supports them etc etc the list goes on and on. but once you pick your team they are your team. for better or worse they are your team. its a pretty simple thing to be loyal, it might not be easy for some, but they mustnt really care about the game or any of its club the moment they begin contemplating changing sides.

as small a part as it may be in the grand scheme of life you know you are a true supporter when you feel that passionate shiver up your spine the moment you see one of your boys, when you see the jumper, when someone slights your team, when you hang out for even the most inconsequential snippet of news about your team and feel the urge to relay it to anyone and everyone as passionate as you.

pick a team and stick with it. pretty damn simple.

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that guy was my history teacher at school many moons ago. allthough you might admire his sentiment, please trust me on this, if you knew the bloke, you would not want fookwits like that supporting the same team as you. put it this way, if you found he was a supporter of the australian cricket team, you would quite happily denounce your australian citizineship and become a kiwi! hnceforth, i'm supporting Essendon*

Schadenfreude thread?

Lots of those scum supporters still have sand in their collective vaginas about last November 24, don't they Almost worthy of a thread by itself.

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I think there may have been a few hearts fluttering around here when the thread headline appeared

What about Fitzroy and South Melbourne fans?

Should they remain loyal to Brisbane and Sydney?

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I can only imagine what this joker will do in 20 years time and 5 or 6 premierships later and he reads the headline "Ratten sacked!".

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If I find out that while I'm celebrating #17, that the bloke standing next to me also sharing in the joy of another famous win, is a former scummer, I reckon there's a good chance he could go home without his teeth.

People can change their cars, their homes, their jobs, their friends, their cities, their countries - but you never change your @#$%&! footy team .

@#$%&! OFF!!

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Why the hostility, let's just take his money while we can.

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