Both Hartlett and Edwards should play, Harts at CHF straightens us up and Edwards is a natural up forward and will ease some pressure on Fevola hopefully. Both has good games on Friday.

For the record, Edwards is nothing like Richard Dennis IMO as RD was a wingman who was ahead of his time, more a modern day player being a tall winger with pace, skill and toughness.

Both for me, both must be matched up on, both give us some options and Waite must stay back, our defence is still our weakest part (rucks are young but will develop)

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

What i like about both Edwards and Harts is they have more leg speed compared to Fish. One of our problems is how easy the ball gets run out of our forward line. Fish can be a damaging player and has one of the best grabs in the AFL but defensively he struggles.

My concern with this is the amount of chasing Fev puts in. Its great to see him chase blokes down and create pressure but could this cut his career short. You hardly see lloydy, Hall, Brown run there arses off out of the forward line as much as you see Fev do so. I don't wanna see his career come to an end to early.

Both will play

I'm not sure how much footy you've played or watched Melvey - but I've seen and played quite a bit and I've never known of 'chasing' as the reason a players career was cut short. It was a fantastic feature of Aaron Hammil's game - but had no impact on his shortened career. Take Fev's chasing of opponents as a sign of maturity...we've all been on his back about not doing it in the past - it's great to see him pressuring the opposition and if you went to the game on Friday you might also have noticed Jake Edwards doing the same thing. Besides - both are quick boys and there's no reason not to use one of your assets in order to keep the ball in the forward line or cause a 'forced error'.

And both will play...without a shadow of a doubt.

Every forward has a defensive role to play.

It's great to see Fev chasing...because he does catch a lot of them, if not with the first bloke, he may get the 2nd or 3rd in a chain of passes; I love that.

If every forward produces the same intensity as Fev does, it'll spread the load and the ball will be in our forwardline a lot more than there's. As a result of this forwardline pressure we increase the probability of a CARLTON GOAL.

If Edwards plays (and it is likely) he must put in 100% offensively and defensively, and not be a spectator as he is prone to.

If Hartlee shows he usual aggression to the opposition with the purpose of winning the ball than hurting the man, we'll be a completely different team to that of the past 5 years.

I'd love to have the need to rotate forwards becuase of the increase of expended energy levels...and then maybe Fev would have more energy in reserve for the unbelievable feats he's capable of.

If this happens, we wont need Betts for his forwardline pressure, because that's about all he does imo.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

My concern is the wear and tear on his body with the way we expect him to attack the play. He is a valuable asset and considering we still at least 3 years from having a crack we need him standing fit and healthy.

BOTH!!!

More like Brad Pearce I reckon.

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Hey Rocky; there are too many rabbits ... in China.

Thats the first time I've seen the words "Richard Dennis" and "pace" in the same sentence.
RD had plenty of football nous and he was great overhead for his size but he was a slowish HFF in my opinion Browne15.
He would have been lapped by some of the wingmen of his era.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Must agree some of these player descriptions are quite interesting to say the least. Would you compare Jake to North's Aaron Edwards in terms of style with the later being much more advanced?

brad pearce was very quick with a raking left foot. typical of the band of half a dozen or so rejects who fitted in nicely to our last six

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one you knock back is one you never have

Maybe you're right in theory, but your theory seems to be working off the idea that no one else will be chasing bar Fev. Whitnall and Fev were always the liability in this area throughout the Pagan era, and in modern footy that's arguably half your forward line not applying defensive pressure. Hopefully that's not the case in this and future seasons.

Back on topic: FWIW, I think both have a role to play with or without Fish in the team, but it comes down to a question of balance later in the season: do we sacrifice a mid? If so who? Can we rely on Edwards to play a crumbing role as well as present as a marking option (ala Lappin)? If not, do we back our mids to consistently deliver to a forward line stacked with talls?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

neither will play consistently this year...im 99.9% sure bout that

i agree, neither will play consistently in 2008.

With Kreuzer and Fisher perhaps missing Rd.1 they are the logical replacements, when Kreuz and Fish return it will be back to the Bullants I suspect for these two.

I dont entirely agree..

Round One expect to see both fight it out from there....

both should start.

both have quality potential

edwards HFF hartlett CHF,

i reckon hartlett will play about 2 games
edwards about 4 this season
if i was ratten i wouldnt play hartlett unless it was the last possible option. after seeing that game against mebourne last year...i dont see how he could get a game....however i used to think the same way about bower and now he looks a little better..

I take it you need to concentrate on 2008 form. Both boys deserve starting 22 until form subsides based on pre-season form. Both boys have had a positive influence on our forward line and both boys have bagged 3-4 hauls in pre-season.

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