...your knickers twisted as well?

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Bunched, but I'll live

Regards Cazzesman

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Hate to be the bearer of bad (or unpopular) tidings, but most of what's reported on SEN as news (as distinct from rumours rung thu on talkback) proves correct.

Last Saturday they reported Andrew Walker was likely to miss 10 weeks and were immediately poo-pooed on this site. Guess what?

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Having seen the Walker incident on telly last night there was little to it.

Pretty obvious he wasnt quite ready for a full on game. To say it was bad luck is crap.
If he had waited to play a little later he would have been ok.
Consequently his year is pretty much over. 12 weeks and he will be behind the ball.
I personally would say give this year the arse and get it right for 09. Dont forget he played with a bad shoulder for a few games last year. This wouldnt have helped.
Shoulders take time to get right. Most players play with injuries. If they dont get their body in the wrong positions its ok and everyone looks like smarties. When you get it wrong as with the case of Walker everyone looks stupid.

Where was it poo-pooed? Andrew's dad came on days ago and told us that exact same thing. We knew about it well before the bogans and no-shows.


It happened almost right in front of me. It certainly wasn't bad luck. From what I could see he went in too hard, too early. I remember thinking as soon as he laid the tackle that he should ease up a bit.

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If you can't tackle, you shouldn't really be out there.

There's bad luck (as in 'there's nothing we could have done') and bad luck (as in, we took an educated risk and it didn't pay off).

AW's case is probably the latter. Bloody shame. Questioning the decision to allow him to play isn't beyond the pale, IMO.

It was a practice game though. Nothing wrong with trying to protect an injury in a game where the result means nothing.

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Cant keep wrapping them in cotton wool at some point they just got to get out there.

They are being paid to play - so get out there and play - If you stuff yourself well bad luck someone else is waiting in the queue to take your spot

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So Judd should've played the whole game then?

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Thanks Dr. your insight has been very helpful.

Regards Cazzesman

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How long should he/the club have waited?

Another day?

Another week?

Another month?

Another 2 months?

The club's experience in matters such as these should not be questioned by the likes of us and unless your AW's doctor, then please refrain from making accusations based on some footage you saw on TV.

You would think the club was out to damage our players and play them as cripples so that we could No. 17 a lot faster.

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Was walker going to play 4 solid quarters-his situation was no different to Judds - returning from injury . and walker needs time in the middle he is not as good as judd

They play a contact sport with lots of running and twisting they are going to get injured and they are at some time going to have to get back out there -

God help this site if Judd re injures his groin it will go into melt down

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Now Cazzesman I respect your views and obviously your an insider and I am an outsider and I wont comment on Hampson and co in respect to injury management but in the case of Walker's shoulder problems the club has clearly [REDACTED] up.
Go back to the Hawthorn game last year when Walker who happened to be one of our best players that night was classified as injured with a dislocated shoulder In fact he dislocated it twice during the game
Apparently he wasnt operated on then. He played later in the year. Dont know how many games .Aint a doctor either but bloody stupid . For playing a few meaningless games Walker had the operation post season.
Had he not played those last few games he would have had an extra 3 months to get it right with September and October non football months for our club.
I went to training in mid January and Walker couldnt raise his shoulder above head level without obvious pain.
This could have possibly been avoided if he hadnt played the last few games in 07 and had the op after the Hawthorn game. Why did he play then? To me that is a no brainer .We wernt going to play finals were we.
He obviously has come back too early . The incident was an ordinary tackle that happens all the time. Walker is extremly driven but should of been told that he wasnt playing the rest of 07 and he might have 2 good shoulders now.
Ratten obvously sees Walker as an important cog in the machine. Because of poor injury management Walker is definitely out for half the year and probably should sit out the whole year and get it right for the first training session in November.
Maybe Walker should talk to Judd who now admits that he should have been smarter and not played the second half of 07 with his dodgy groin.

Read my comments above. I would assume that the club gets it right most times.In Walker's case they got it wrong because they [REDACTED] up last year. Players play injured. yep we know that. Sometimes they do if a flag is on the line and the injury was manageable. Walker's wasnt and there was nothing to gain in playing him in 07. A stupid decision that has bitten the club on the bum.