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Edwards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hartlett

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The Tyrant wrote:
Edwards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hartlett


Care to elaborate? Just a suggestion.


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To be honest I'd prefer O'hAilpin over them both.


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To be honest I'd prefer O'hAilpin over them both.


Me too. You can't fault his passion.

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Play whichever one isn't injured.


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I don't think Setanta has the football nous to be a forward. Best placed as an attacking defender where he can be led to the ball. Hartlett can kick from outside the arc whicjh gives him the edge in my opinion.

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Everytime Setanta has been played forward he has kicked goals and set others up. You cannot ask for more than that.

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"If" Waite plays back, which looks like Ratten's preference, then Hartlett should get first go @ CHF. Good mark and kick and doesn't mind throwing his body around. Whether his body can stand up to it is another matter. :cry:

Edwards IMHO is a Fisher type where he is a floating 3rd forward, although I believe he could also be a very good FF. That is what I think CFC should be molding him towards. He seems a natural replacement for Fevola.

Setanta has a lot to learn about AFL and even more to be able to play CHF. In time he might be able to do a "Spalding" job across their but for the moment, I don't think so. I stand to be corrected and would be happy to see myself proven wrong. Extremely happy. :wink: I think his best position at this moment is CHB. He can learn from opposition forwards while using his athleticism to attack where necessary. I firmly believe this is his "best" position.

Cloke is a real concern IMHO. Another who does not seem to have natural football smarts to play CHF but does try hard.


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Good observations Surrey

particularly about Edwards replacing Fev. To me, he seems the natural long-term full forward in the team, as long as he doesn't contune to be stricken by injury. Tall enough, and quick enough to make life extremely difficult for most full backs.


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Good observations Surrey

particularly about Edwards replacing Fev. To me, he seems the natural long-term full forward in the team, as long as he doesn't contune to be stricken by injury. Tall enough, and quick enough to make life extremely difficult for most full backs.


and maybe thats the best solution. get fev further up the ground and leave jake in the square.

i'd even be tempted to play fev at CHF in some games, especially if his direct impact is small.


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The Tyrant wrote:
Edwards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hartlett


You seem pretty sure of yourself.


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Edwards will be a GUN, and in our top 10 within a couple of years

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Why hasn't there been a bit more consideration of Fev at CHF?
Even if just temporarily or as a change.
He could dominate from that position as key marking & goal kicking target (best kick from outside 50 too); he is able to double back & outrun most defenders after a contest and his delivery, esp by foot, is as good as anyone on our list BJ. He could still kick 3-4goals and bring in other players as well. It might be an easier job to find someone to play out of the goal square.
Any thoughts?


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17th Premiership wrote:
Why hasn't there been a bit more consideration of Fev at CHF?
Even if just temporarily or as a change.
He could dominate from that position as key marking & goal kicking target (best kick from outside 50 too); he is able to double back & outrun most defenders after a contest and his delivery, esp by foot, is as good as anyone on our list BJ. He could still kick 3-4goals and bring in other players as well. It might be an easier job to find someone to play out of the goal square.
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I would, where it made sense

Also to run him in the game if he's getting cold at FF. It totally makes sense to fire him up by getting him to knock people over around the middle

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The Tyrant wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Why hasn't there been a bit more consideration of Fev at CHF?
Even if just temporarily or as a change.
He could dominate from that position as key marking & goal kicking target (best kick from outside 50 too); he is able to double back & outrun most defenders after a contest and his delivery, esp by foot, is as good as anyone on our list BJ. He could still kick 3-4goals and bring in other players as well. It might be an easier job to find someone to play out of the goal square.
Any thoughts?


I would, where it made sense

Also to run him in the game if he's getting cold at FF. It totally makes sense to fire him up by getting him to knock people over around the middle

Agree. We need to be less predictable more often. I'd even play Fev on a wing at certain times.

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The Tyrant wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Why hasn't there been a bit more consideration of Fev at CHF?
Even if just temporarily or as a change.
He could dominate from that position as key marking & goal kicking target (best kick from outside 50 too); he is able to double back & outrun most defenders after a contest and his delivery, esp by foot, is as good as anyone on our list BJ. He could still kick 3-4goals and bring in other players as well. It might be an easier job to find someone to play out of the goal square.
Any thoughts?


I would, where it made sense

Also to run him in the game if he's getting cold at FF. It totally makes sense to fire him up by getting him to knock people over around the middle

Agree. We need to be less predictable more often. I'd even play Fev on a wing at certain times.


Maybe even the odd game at full-back :oops:

I definitely agree with getting him into the play more often, would help with his frustration levels and his field kicking is excellent. Would be a delight for Edwards etc to have Fev delivering to you.

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17th Premiership wrote:
Why hasn't there been a bit more consideration of Fev at CHF?
Even if just temporarily or as a change.
He could dominate from that position as key marking & goal kicking target (best kick from outside 50 too); he is able to double back & outrun most defenders after a contest and his delivery, esp by foot, is as good as anyone on our list BJ. He could still kick 3-4goals and bring in other players as well. It might be an easier job to find someone to play out of the goal square.
Any thoughts?


Don't agree. Pretty sure Pagan tried this with limited success.
Fev is not a CHF. Too short and being more a leading ff has no space to work with from there except down the wings which defeats the purpose. For mine we need to get the right people around him, working with him instead of putting him under more pressure by playing him out of position. He is the best FF in the AFL, lets not destroy what we already have going for us by trying to change him.


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SurreyBlue wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Why hasn't there been a bit more consideration of Fev at CHF?
Even if just temporarily or as a change.
He could dominate from that position as key marking & goal kicking target (best kick from outside 50 too); he is able to double back & outrun most defenders after a contest and his delivery, esp by foot, is as good as anyone on our list BJ. He could still kick 3-4goals and bring in other players as well. It might be an easier job to find someone to play out of the goal square.
Any thoughts?


Don't agree. Pretty sure Pagan tried this with limited success.
Fev is not a CHF. Too short and being more a leading ff has no space to work with from there except down the wings which defeats the purpose. For mine we need to get the right people around him, working with him instead of putting him under more pressure by playing him out of position. He is the best FF in the AFL, lets not destroy what we already have going for us by trying to change him.


I wouldn't do CHF

I would just stick him on the ball on occasion when he's not getting the ball, just to get him to rough people up and use his amazing kicking skills

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Fev at CHF makes sense only if we are prepared to play setanta or waite as a deep forward. Setanta for his height/aggression that will create contests and nab a few free kicks, waite for x factor/ground skills


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Fev may not have the engine to play further up the ground for long periods of time.


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