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The common problem with thumb fractures is that it can easily cut supply to the radial artery which gives what is called avascular necrosis or in laymans terms basically means cell death due to lack of blood supply. This type of injury must be very closely monitored to avoid this otherwise people can have ongoing problems. Other problems with thumb fracture is that the lump of muscles at the base of the thumb (called the interrosei) quickly waste away and intensive rehab will be needed to get these muscles back - these muscles help with both strength and movement, obviously a key for the Fish. A third potential problem is due to the need to stabilise the thumb to allow the fracture to heal the thumb becomes very stiff and it can be quite a long process to regain full range of movement. The thumb typically will take longer to rehab than the other fingers due to the thumb having the greatest range of movement ie. the fingers pretty much just go forwards and backwards with only slight side to side but the thumb goes every which way.

And often there are no problems and the injury and rehab go just fine :-D .

Oh and by the way i didnt google all that, im a final year physio student. Hope that helps anyone.

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bjaffe wrote:
The common problem with thumb fractures is that it can easily cut supply to the radial artery which gives what is called avascular necrosis or in laymans terms basically means cell death due to lack of blood supply. This type of injury must be very closely monitored to avoid this otherwise people can have ongoing problems. Other problems with thumb fracture is that the lump of muscles at the base of the thumb (called the interrosei) quickly waste away and intensive rehab will be needed to get these muscles back - these muscles help with both strength and movement, obviously a key for the Fish. A third potential problem is due to the need to stabilise the thumb to allow the fracture to heal the thumb becomes very stiff and it can be quite a long process to regain full range of movement. The thumb typically will take longer to rehab than the other fingers due to the thumb having the greatest range of movement ie. the fingers pretty much just go forwards and backwards with only slight side to side but the thumb goes every which way.

And often there are no problems and the injury and rehab go just fine :-D .

Oh and by the way i didnt google all that, im a final year physio student. Hope that helps anyone.


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Fisher has a history of returning early from injury. Like most players he hates missing games of footy and works extremely hard to give himself every opportunity to return early.

I'd be surprised if he's not back by round 2.

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Fish looked out of sorts in that game I wonder when he actually injured his finger

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exsing wrote:
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Ackland - heart - indefinite


His injury has been upgraded.

Ackland: Softcock - Permanent


Ackland + VIAGRA = Treated??????

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IIRC his fractured cheeked healed faster then expected, hopefull there'll be good efficient results here too


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TheSwan wrote:
bad luck Fish!

Stick Setanta in the forward line with Edwards, Fev and Harts and keep Jamo, Thornton and Waite as our key backman. Throw is Saddington for some experience.

Or, can we afford to play Waite as a forward and use Jamo, Thornton or Setanta at CHB?


nah, keep waite at CHB and let fev, harts, edwards and thornton in the fwd line. and hamo will drift up there as will santa cruz!.

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bjaffe wrote:
The common problem with thumb fractures is that it can easily cut supply to the radial artery which gives what is called avascular necrosis or in laymans terms basically means cell death due to lack of blood supply. This type of injury must be very closely monitored to avoid this otherwise people can have ongoing problems. Other problems with thumb fracture is that the lump of muscles at the base of the thumb (called the interrosei) quickly waste away and intensive rehab will be needed to get these muscles back - these muscles help with both strength and movement, obviously a key for the Fish. A third potential problem is due to the need to stabilise the thumb to allow the fracture to heal the thumb becomes very stiff and it can be quite a long process to regain full range of movement. The thumb typically will take longer to rehab than the other fingers due to the thumb having the greatest range of movement ie. the fingers pretty much just go forwards and backwards with only slight side to side but the thumb goes every which way.

And often there are no problems and the injury and rehab go just fine :-D .

Oh and by the way i didnt google all that, im a final year physio student. Hope that helps anyone.


Interesting info, thanks for the input mate.


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bjaffe wrote:
The common problem with thumb fractures is that it can easily cut supply to the radial artery which gives what is called avascular necrosis or in laymans terms basically means cell death due to lack of blood supply. This type of injury must be very closely monitored to avoid this otherwise people can have ongoing problems. Other problems with thumb fracture is that the lump of muscles at the base of the thumb (called the interrosei) quickly waste away and intensive rehab will be needed to get these muscles back - these muscles help with both strength and movement, obviously a key for the Fish. A third potential problem is due to the need to stabilise the thumb to allow the fracture to heal the thumb becomes very stiff and it can be quite a long process to regain full range of movement. The thumb typically will take longer to rehab than the other fingers due to the thumb having the greatest range of movement ie. the fingers pretty much just go forwards and backwards with only slight side to side but the thumb goes every which way.

And often there are no problems and the injury and rehab go just fine :-D .

Oh and by the way i didnt google all that, im a final year physio student. Hope that helps anyone.


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Was going to say the same thing. Great work Bjaffe.

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bjaffe wrote:
The common problem with thumb fractures is that it can easily cut supply to the radial artery which gives what is called avascular necrosis or in laymans terms basically means cell death due to lack of blood supply. This type of injury must be very closely monitored to avoid this otherwise people can have ongoing problems. Other problems with thumb fracture is that the lump of muscles at the base of the thumb (called the interrosei) quickly waste away and intensive rehab will be needed to get these muscles back - these muscles help with both strength and movement, obviously a key for the Fish. A third potential problem is due to the need to stabilise the thumb to allow the fracture to heal the thumb becomes very stiff and it can be quite a long process to regain full range of movement. The thumb typically will take longer to rehab than the other fingers due to the thumb having the greatest range of movement ie. the fingers pretty much just go forwards and backwards with only slight side to side but the thumb goes every which way.

And often there are no problems and the injury and rehab go just fine :-D .

Oh and by the way i didnt google all that, im a final year physio student. Hope that helps anyone.


Thanks for that.

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If they are the only injuries why didnt both the Ohailpin brothers play on the weekend. What is the deal with Setanta why isn't he playing he would be one of the first names picked if it was up to me.

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Dang! Fish is a wee bit injury prone isn't he. :cry:


Yeah I gotta agree with you there !!

Anyone got a list of all Fish's injuries since joining the Blues?.

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Outback Blue wrote:
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Dang! Fish is a wee bit injury prone isn't he. :cry:


Yeah I gotta agree with you there !!

Anyone got a list of all Fish's injuries since joining the Blues?.


He crushed his larynx and ruptured his spleen, both of his lungs were punctured......

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While none of us want Fisher out injured, there could be a sliver lining to this.

Sounds as though the Club has earmarked Fish for CHF. IMHO, I don't think that is the right position for him...he is much more of a floating third tall in my eyes.

My worry is that he won't perform well as a CHF, which would be a double negative (and no, not one of the ones that becomes a positive)...still weak at CHF, and without Fisher's value as the third tall.

His injury now forces the Club to play others at CHF...my hope is that one of them will grab it and make it his own, so that when Fish returns, he can slot back onto a flank.

Hartlett is the one I'd like to see given first shot...he's just got to get onto the park. O'hAilpin and Kreuzer, at this stage of their development, are nothing more than pinch hitters there.

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Outback Blue wrote:
camelboy wrote:
Dang! Fish is a wee bit injury prone isn't he. :cry:


Yeah I gotta agree with you there !!

Anyone got a list of all Fish's injuries since joining the Blues?.
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Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere, but it was reported on Ch 7 news tonight that Fev sustained a serious injury against Port.

The gist of it was he damaged a lung in a clash with two Port players and was coughing up blood and in a lot of pain, but stayed on the field, managing to kick a couple of goals. (I think I got that right?). He had scans on it and was diagnosed with air trapped between the rib-cage and lung.

What was done to fix the problem I don't know, but at the end of the report they stated that Fev is expected to play on Saturday.

Maybe it wasn't that serious after all, or maybe it was all BS. Anyway, thought I would post this bit of news for our o'seas & interstate fans.

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windy wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere, but it was reported on Ch 7 news tonight that Fev sustained a serious injury against Port.

The gist of it was he damaged a lung in a clash with two Port players and was coughing up blood and in a lot of pain, but stayed on the field, managing to kick a couple of goals. (I think I got that right?). He had scans on it and was diagnosed with air trapped between the rib-cage and lung.

What was done to fix the problem I don't know, but at the end of the report they stated that Fev is expected to play on Saturday.

Maybe it wasn't that serious after all, or maybe it was all BS. Anyway, thought I would post this bit of news for our o'seas & interstate fans.


I heard the same thing on SEN news break. Although it was a bit more dramatic... something like " Fev gets rushed to hospital with lung injury"
I nearly fell off my chair. Ten or so minutes later Steven Icke was on and said it was old news and that Fev is fine and expected to play on Saturday.... thanks for the heart attack SEN.


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windy wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere, but it was reported on Ch 7 news tonight that Fev sustained a serious injury against Port.

The gist of it was he damaged a lung in a clash with two Port players and was coughing up blood and in a lot of pain, but stayed on the field, managing to kick a couple of goals. (I think I got that right?). He had scans on it and was diagnosed with air trapped between the rib-cage and lung.

What was done to fix the problem I don't know, but at the end of the report they stated that Fev is expected to play on Saturday.

Maybe it wasn't that serious after all, or maybe it was all BS. Anyway, thought I would post this bit of news for our o'seas & interstate fans.


I heard the same thing on SEN news break. Although it was a bit more dramatic... something like " Fev gets rushed to hospital with lung injury"
I nearly fell off my chair. Ten or so minutes later Steven Icke was on and said it was old news and that Fev is fine and expected to play on Saturday.... thanks for the heart attack SEN.


Yeah - I saw it on the national news here in Auckland! They started talking about how hard Aussie Rules players are and then showed Fev kicking goals and running around after being crunched. Apparently he had an air pocket between his lung and ribcage.

Afterwards they rolled out the usual tripe about tight shorts etc.... :roll:

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Bunks wrote:
bax wrote:
windy wrote:
Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere, but it was reported on Ch 7 news tonight that Fev sustained a serious injury against Port.

The gist of it was he damaged a lung in a clash with two Port players and was coughing up blood and in a lot of pain, but stayed on the field, managing to kick a couple of goals. (I think I got that right?). He had scans on it and was diagnosed with air trapped between the rib-cage and lung.

What was done to fix the problem I don't know, but at the end of the report they stated that Fev is expected to play on Saturday.

Maybe it wasn't that serious after all, or maybe it was all BS. Anyway, thought I would post this bit of news for our o'seas & interstate fans.


I heard the same thing on SEN news break. Although it was a bit more dramatic... something like " Fev gets rushed to hospital with lung injury"
I nearly fell off my chair. Ten or so minutes later Steven Icke was on and said it was old news and that Fev is fine and expected to play on Saturday.... thanks for the heart attack SEN.


Yeah - I saw it on the national news here in Auckland! They started talking about how hard Aussie Rules players are and then showed Fev kicking goals and running around after being crunched. Apparently he had an air pocket between his lung and ribcage.

Afterwards they rolled out the usual tripe about tight shorts etc.... :roll:


How is he anyway? Is he playing tonight?

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He'll be right. Although don't be surprised if he only plays half a game.

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