Well, he DID compare Pratt to Tony Mokbel. I'd call that defamation.

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Qantas can't be worse than Visy, i mean Qantas are only a major partner of a National Competition called the AFL not to mention Qantas are a major part of the Australian culture/image Internationally.

Melvey, the people in question at Qantas represent QANTAS. The people in question don't charge you the client the inflated price, Qantas does as a Business.

True, and hopefully Pratt has instigated legal proceedings on that to send fatprick broke. What I was saying though is we can't make a complaint that Smith is damaging our brand, because it would do far more harm than good.

The thing that irks me with Smith is not that he criticizes Pratt. I mean lets face it, Pratt committed a very serious crime, and was punished accordingly. ANd if Smith truly believes Pratt is a blight on the game, then he is justified in writing his articles. But I don't think Smith believes that. I think Smith has some vendetta against Pratt. Because if he truly bnelieved that cartels were so serious, why is he so praising of Ron evans. The last line of that article finished with the line about Ron Evans saying quality leadership was lost the day Evans stepped down. Well Ron Evans was as corrupt as they come, and his price fixing of food at the footy was equally as shameful as Pratt. What about the average footy fan Fatprick who shells out a substantial amount of money for tickets and then has to spend 5 bucks on a bottle of water or 5 bucks on a meat pie that cost the catering company 30 cents.

IS that quality leadership fatprick?

It mightn't be quality leadership, but how is it price fixing? The issue is more how did Spotless win the contract in the first place.

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I asked Ian Coutts on Sat urday morning what the Club was going to do about Smith.

His reply was "Don't worry about him"

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700 million that works out to $35 per Australian over a few years. Did you miss it? So let's not get this out of proportion. You've probably been ripped off way more at the football with the Spotless monopoly. Wonder how they got that contract? Get over it, that's busines whether it's the Oil Companies, QANTAS ot the Banks who are all doing the same thing but haven't been caught. If you're that outraged sand outside their head offices with plackards. QANTAS are a sponsor of the AFL so it they were to sanction Pratt then they'd be obliged to drop their sponsorhip with them and give back any money they've taken from them. Gaurantee it won't happen. same as sanctions against Pratt won't happen. IF ASIC say he's fit to run a company then he's stays President of Carlton. Not a thing the AFL can do about it, not that they're really interested anyway, it's only Smith pushing it. They are not above the law of the land.

For the game to be brought into disrepute the brand has to tarnished in the public's eyes. In this case people literally don't give a toss so the brand isn't tarnished in the public's eyes, except idiot Smith's, hence no disrepute.

Obviously it will be a sad day for football when the new 'cleanskin" rules are introduced.
Surely our president will have to step aside as he's been found guilty of a civil charge. Thats the end of him. How can he still be an AFL president?

But lets not forget Leigh Matthews. Was'nt he found guilty of assault? Did'nt he break Neville Bruns' jaw? An intentional assault!
Thats the end of him.
How could he possibly remain as an AFL coach?

But hang on...what about Alistair Clarkson. Did'nt he kick hit an opponent behind play and render him unconscious? surely thats bringing the game into disrepute.
Thats the end of him. How could he possibly remain a coach?

Has anyone heard of Michael Voss?
I understand he's currently before the courts in relation to an assault.
Surely he cant be working as an AFL high performance coach at the AIS.
Thats the end of him! Disrepute I say.

This holier than thou game is fun.

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So the big corporations who passed on the charge to consumers after purchasing boxes from Visy will reimburse consumers when they get their payout?

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you got to be joking. How can you compare those incidents to Richard Pratt conspiring to rip off every single australians. Steal from us to fill his own pockets up when he has billions. He is very lucky not to be in jail.

what rip off ???

Amcor and Visy stopped cutting their prices and set a market price so they wouldn't run at a loss ... nobody was actually ripped off ... by the way since the price fixing stopped I haven't seen the price of my corn flakes go down.

You must feel great Melvey knowing you are paying the right price for you cardboard whilst getting well and truly ripped off at the petrol pump.

Price fixing doesn't necessarily mean anyone is getting ripped off.

How is he very lucky not to be in jail???


Do you eve know what youre talking about???

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Melvey - I would rather read page after page of insults from "Oh when the Saints" and "GarthP" rather than the crap you spin.

Your inside info is nearly always wrong, you are negative, you show no understanding - you are just a plain old troll.

In the words of Don Lane to James Randi - "You can just flower off!!!"

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great point.

its a difficult situation

If Pratt lived in the UK or USA he would have served time. He was found guilty of knowing and approving of the price fixing simple as that!!!! He knew he would get away with it, and took advantage of it. There should be tougher penalties for such a horrible act.

My issue is that as long as he stays on board the Patrick Smiths, Dwayne Russels will continue to bring up this issue. This would have to cause some unrest within the club in regrads to sponsorship and corporate sponsorship.

Its all about the brand and having this over our head to me somewhat tarnishes the 'brand'.

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and i'm in desperate need of a hair cut.

I believe in some Muslim Countries they stone a woman to death if found cheating on her husband regardless how he treats her, yet here in Australia and the rest of the Western World women not only they get scott free if they happen to cheat on their husbands and/or get divorced, but if they happen to have children they get 60% of all the assets and the poor husband regardless how well he treated his wife have to pay anomy till the kids reach of age, so should Australia bring in jail sentences for these women, I don’t think so.

Only while people buy into and take any notice of what they're saying.

Richard Pratt is one of the most successful businessmen in Australia. Who are Patrick Smith and Dwayne Russell?

Any lost sponsorship due to Pratt's dealings would be more than made up from Pratt's association with the Blues. We'd lose more sponsorship if he walked away than we will if he stays.

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Melvey you seriously need to understand a few things:

1. This country is called Australia.
2. We abide to Australian Law
3. There is no jail term for cartel activity.
4. Our brand has suffered MASSIVELY

Now are you a member? If not i suggest you sign up with Patrick and vote against Pratt as President. Ooops he is not up for re-election this year, what a pity you now have to find another 98 members to force a EGM, good luck mate

Now move on and build a bridge with all of that $35 savings you now have and move onto another topic of conversation.

There would be more people wanting to invest money in Pratt than Fatprick... which says it all really...

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