Richard Pratt: Confirmed as Carlton president for 2008 (p3)

camel · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:22 pm

It seems as though Patrick Smith is adamant that Richard Pratt, as Visy chairman, has brought the AFL into disrepute when he presided over the well-publicised case of price fixing with Visy's competitor Amcor. Because of this belief, Patrick Smith is demanding that Pratt resigns as Carlton president as he believes that Pratt is damaging the AFL's image by continuing in the role.

As noted, this case has been well-publicised, so there's probably not a great deal of need to go over the details again, suffice to say these two points are probably the most crucial:

1. Justice Heerey said: "The case was the worst cartel to come before the court in the 30-plus years since cartel behaviour has been illegal."

2. And that the cartel started, and finished, with the case being public knowledge, well before Pratt was Carlton president.

So, what do you reckon. Should Richard Pratt stay, or should he go?

Jez1966 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:42 pm **Posts:** 2833

Stay for as long as he and the members want.

grrofunger · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:33 pm

bit of a biased sample group on this one :lol:

Ockham's Razor · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:27 pm **Posts:** 1689

Richard Pratt should definetly stay.

Patrick Smith should get stuffed. He is a mean spirited, vacuous blow-hard.

The AFL should cease medling in off field issues and stop trying to be social engineers.

Andrew Demetriou should get stuffed too.

The ACCC has no issue with Richard Pratt being the director of a company so why should the AFL have an issue with him being a president of the most successful football club in the land.

Despite Heerey J's comments about it being the worst cartel he had come across,

- the matter was not a criminal matter;
- Richard Pratt is not a convicted criminal as Patrick Smith stated;
- Richard Pratt has not committed a crime.

Richard Pratt should remain president of the Blues until he chooses to leave or the members decide he should leave. The matter is of no business to the AFL nor to Patrick Smith - did I mention that he should get stuffed!

Ockham's Razor · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:27 pm **Posts:** 1689

grrofunger wrote:

bit of a biased sample group on this one :lol:

Wait for Melvey to vote, that'll change the balance a bit :wink:

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

camelboy wrote:

So, what do you reckon?

Sorry, but I reckon this thread is on the nose because of it's mere existance. It gives credence to what I consider is a total non-issue and purely a desperate beat-up job for sales/ratings.

We should all do the "Carlton" thing and thumb our nose to this non-issue as it's simply not worthy of attention. Move on.

grrofunger · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:40 pm

Ockham's Razor wrote:

grrofunger wrote:

bit of a biased sample group on this one :lol:

Wait for Melvey to vote, that'll change the balance a bit :wink:

i think he has - its 13 - 1 :lol:

Ockham's Razor · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:27 pm **Posts:** 1689

grrofunger wrote:

Ockham's Razor wrote:

grrofunger wrote:

bit of a biased sample group on this one :lol:

Wait for Melvey to vote, that'll change the balance a bit :wink:

i think he has - its 13 - 1 :lol:

I think you're right!

Rhys26 · **Joined:** Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:12 am **Posts:** 1730

camelboy wrote:

It seems as though Patrick Smith is adamant that Richard Pratt, as Visy chairman, has brought the AFL into disrepute when he presided over the well-publicised case of price fixing with Visy's competitor Amcor.

Patrick Smith can go and @#$%&! himself

shuffagus · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:33 pm

definately...that stuff has nothing to do with the club...of course he should stay

BrizzyBlue · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:34 pm

Now 24-1.....I know who the disenter was, but I'm not saying. Nah, nah, nah,nah, nah, nah!

Jarusa · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:00 am **Posts:** 23123

I pressed no and thought I was voting to stay, read the title of the thread "should he stay or should he go" and clicked no thinking it was no he should not go.

Next time I'll read the poll question. :oops:

Wojee · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 am **Posts:** 35135

I have no problem with Pratt heading the club.

Toranasaurus · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:46 pm

If he stays could it be trouble?

If he goes will it be double?

Clearly Sir Richard should follow the path of least trouble.
For my own selfish reasons I hope he stays.

AGRO · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:11 pm

How about a poll question:

"Shoot Fatprick Smith and Demetrispew now" Yes or No.

:twisted:

camel · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:14 pm

AGRO wrote:

How about a poll question:

"Shoot Fatprick Smith and Demetrispew now" Yes or No.

:twisted:

How about no to that poll. :wink:

Mrs Caz · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:17 pm

Unless he is mentally unfit, I will be happy for him to stay the full 2 years.

I think P.smith is the mentally unfit one here.

Elwood Blues1 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am **Posts:** 4827

I'd like to see him continue and then hand over to our friend from the NAB bank in a smooth transition.
Made the same mistake as Jarusa and pressed "No" by mistake :oops:

The issue has been a beat up and even the AFL dont seem interested...

kingkerna · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:29 pm

Mrs C, I think Jars and Elwood should cop a short banning for voting no

Mrs Caz · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:32 pm

kingkerna wrote:

Mrs C, I think Jars and Elwood should cop a short banning for voting no

You put forward a very convincing argument kk.

Richard Pratt: Confirmed as Carlton president for 2008 (p3)

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