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One practise game against Bulleen-Temp, I went to position myself on the wing and put out my hand to wish my opponent well. Then, WHACK! a big right from nowhere to the jaw. Down I went gobsmacked.

As I looked up at this prick, I saw these weird eyes...he was on crack or something...the flower thought I was going to bot some off him or something....I knew I was up against a psycho.

As I got up to retaliate...and I was feeling as friendly as a shark at that stage, Gilly, my mate and captain of B-T, grabbed this guy and sent him off the ground, never to return. He didn't tell me he was from West Heidelberg, but he must have. :wink:

Gave my mate a wink, and he told me to forget it, the guy's a flower and he wont be returning. But then there were a couple more fircrackers going off ... in a bloody practise game!

Gee, they had some good players too!

It's raining cats and dogs here in Bondi, just started, and I have to walk 2 blocks to the local for a houligan soup. I bet you guys are bathing in sunshine in Melbourne.

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It's raining cats and dogs here in Bondi, just started, and I have to walk 2 blocks to the local for a houligan soup. I bet you guys are bathing in sunshine in Melbourne.


Yep....blue sky here; but we are desperate for rain....desperate.


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One practise game against Bulleen-Temp, I went to position myself on the wing and put out my hand to wish my opponent well. Then, WHACK! a big right from nowhere to the jaw. Down I went gobsmacked.

As I looked up at this prick, I saw these weird eyes...he was on crack or something...the flower thought I was going to bot some off him or something....I knew I was up against a psycho.

As I got up to retaliate...and I was feeling as friendly as a shark at that stage, Gilly, my mate and captain of B-T, grabbed this guy and sent him off the ground, never to return. He didn't tell me he was from West Heidelberg, but he must have. :wink:

Gave my mate a wink, and he told me to forget it, the guy's a flower and he wont be returning. But then there were a couple more fircrackers going off ... in a bloody practise game!

Gee, they had some good players too!

It's raining cats and dogs here in Bondi, just started, and I have to walk 2 blocks to the local for a houligan soup. I bet you guys are bathing in sunshine in Melbourne.


So Bondiwho,

you say you know my hood, but my 'suburban' Bullant boys play it too rough for you:?: how do identities like the ones I played with fit & you came across fit into you're image of Templestowe :?: that's because you don't know the real people of the area, we keep to ourselves and you have to have cred before we'll deal with ya'.

best you keep to the congeniality of cosmopolitian playhouse Bondi, plenty of non handbag backpackers for you up there in that Australian dung hole showcase of aspirational values.

now to the serious matter, if you didn't play for Ajax, you wouldn't know what the true Bulleen Templestowe colours are like. :wink:

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Loved hearing about your life BB. It's your generalisation of facts that get to me.

The Bulleen Temp Footy Ground is in Lower Templestowe, yes suburbia - just near Kouta's Souvlaki Hut. Templestowe which is another couple of kilometres further on is a different area altogether.

My boys played for the Bullants - Juniors and Seniors and I never saw anything like you describe. :)


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As usual Bondi Blue you have an expert opinion on things you seem to know very little about.


Oh Momma, no need to be so facetious. Are you suggesting I know very little about Templestowe? How do you know that?

You're wrong. But how ironic of you to make such a comment about me knowing very little about something, when you don't know what I know. That's strange.

You don't like me; obviously. I haven't got a clue why, but fair enough. I'll remember that. But don't you worry about that, because I love you, only because you're a Carlton supporter; you're just a bit nasty, that's all.

I am old enough and well travelled to know a little bit about a lot of things.

I too had rural experiences in Templestowe like Mark No3. I had horses agisted in there in the early 80's; beautiful horses. I also had property there. I also was a teacher in the area, and still go there if I have to.

I still know a lot of people out there, but I must admit, I prefer them to visit me in when I'm in town rather than go there; the area lacks inspiration for me; and there's not much to go out to that I like; very suburban.

You see Blue Momma, I do know a bit about Templestowe, so I'm not speaking out of line; you are.

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How long ago did you dazzle all these women


I'm married these days, no longer operate nighclubs in Melbourne, don't have a holiday house down the Peninsula, and don't get around as I use to, but I do have a girlfriend in Templestowe. Wife's cool, she knows what I was like before she proposed, and the great thing is, we have never had an argument in the 11 years together. Yeah it's weird, but so am I. I don't care too much for friction amongst friends. I just want to enjoy life to the fullest, then die young and happy.

Look don't get the wrong idea, but having multiple girl acquaintances was not a secretive and dirty business thing , I chose to hang out only with girls who don't have hang ups about those sort of things; open minded feminists? I was never good at the handbag thing; too much restriction, expectation and as a result disappointment. In a nutshell, one on one girlfriends...you know serious (short or long term) relationships are taken much too serious, and someone always gets hurt. People forget why a couple get together in the first place; the enjoyment from the company, for that moment in time.

I never thought I dazzled anyone, I thought that people liked me (and still do) because there's always a bit of fun to be had wherever I go. I have a lust for life, even at my age; it's just time is of a premium having to fit in time with the kid, the wife, the busines, the friends and my true love, CARLTON.

Lots of love to you Blue Momma. May your team win a flag soon.

Hey, back to the theme of the thread, do you want to be my date for the Carribbean Sunsets (if I go)? It should be a lot of fun; if you're a fun loving type.


Have you been drinking?

You don't sound very well.


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Get a grip people...

I have met Blue Momma, 79v, and bondi...


and none of you are as angry or tough as you come across here.
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Chill.......or there will be consequences..... 8)


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now to the serious matter, if you didn't play for Ajax, you wouldn't know what the true Bulleen Templestowe colours are like. :wink:



Now they were a bunch of c's!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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and none of you are as angry or tough as you come across here.
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Neither are you! :-D











Well, maybe you are.

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Judd

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Have you been drinking?

You don't sound very well.


I'm having another very good day..thanks for your concern.

Carribbean Sunset sounds good...doesn't it?

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Loved hearing about your life BB. It's your generalisation of facts that get to me.


Sorry about that BM. Not sure what the generalisations are, I was stating facts, openly, honestly, and by no means am I referring to people of Templestowe; they're OK. Take it easy. Explain rather than generalising please..then we'll be on the same page. Calm down and communicate your problem with substance.

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The Bulleen Temp Footy Ground is in Lower Templestowe, yes suburbia - just near Kouta's Souvlaki Hut. Templestowe which is another couple of kilometres further on is a different area altogether.


I'm not sure what you're implying, we were discussing what I know about Templestowe. We should be focussing on putting money into the club via Carribbean Sunsets.

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My boys played for the Bullants - Juniors and Seniors and I never saw anything like you describe.


That' great, That's healthy. I'm in total support of your support for your children's socialisation and development. If you're a good parent that does their best for their kids then good on you for that too; that's great; I hope you teach them great values and tolerance too.

What exactly did I describe about the Bullants?...Bullen-Templestowe is what I referred to in this thread? You must be referring and linking another thread re my comments about Bullants-Carlton association.

Nothing wrong with Templestowe people, nothing wrong with Bullants...I just don't and have never barracked for the Bullants. Did you ever barrack for Collingwood? I didn't think so. That's life, so you know how I feel about the Bullants. They were a great team to watch in the 70's though.

This is probably a good example why Carlton and Bullants don't mix. It's a model of two clans who have an allegiance of one but the nautral tendency is to allow disruption to occur with our splintered allegiance towards the other; the differentiator.

Take it easy...think about it....I barrack for CARLTON and no one else...not the Bullants, not Preston, not Templestowe...not even the teams I was associated in the past. I don't care about any other team, not even Bondi Beach...only Carlton; that's why I'm on this forum....with my blueblooded brethren regardless of where they come from.

I understand now that it's imperative to work towards the end of the Bullants association with Carlton; too much greyness and red (rags to a bull).; it's unhealthy for all of us who try to be ONE! It's such a fine line to have 2 teams.... and maintain, collectively, our passion for Carlton fragmented.

I thought we were all on the same side. Nah, I'm not alluding to Collingwood folk from Preston! I'm Talking Carlton!!!

Stuff templestowe, stuff the Bullants, Stuff Bondi, Stuff everyone else....we're Carlton!

I'm innocent here. I'm from neither area, just commenting on the look of houses pressed together in a suburban veneer; nothing wrong with that, nothing right; just bad luck for all of us with our own perception...or good luck.

Work out your own situation, don't strike me for my opinion; I might be right...but, I'm not saying I am...I may be wrong...it's the way I feel about housing; not people.

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you say you know my hood, but my 'suburban' Bullant boys play it too rough for you:?: how do identities like the ones I played with fit & you came across fit into you're image of Templestowe that's because you don't know the real people of the area, we keep to ourselves and you have to have cred before we'll deal with ya'.

best you keep to the congeniality of cosmopolitian playhouse Bondi, plenty of non handbag backpackers for you up there in that Australian dung hole showcase of aspirational values.

now to the serious matter, if you didn't play for Ajax, you wouldn't know what the true Bulleen Templestowe colours are like.


79..refer back to the previous posts you've entered...that's not you...someone else has taken over your keyboard.

Look, re Templestowe, my mates live there, my mates played there, they still live there, my folk etc...I know people there...I love them and vice versa..we're all good people...it doesn't mean the people are bad.....it doesn't mean the suburb is beautiful, pristine or ugly either..it's just not for me....so I did the right thing by you and me and got out!...and I'll be back for xmas day. The Ajax part I do not understand.

I've never heard you like that...home boy style That dialect doesn't come out in your other posts...so I'll take it as a joke, because this is scary.

We're Carltonians on this channel. I don't cry about the silly comments you make about Bondi or Australia...go for it...if that's what you think. You say things like...

"we keep to ourselves"?
"Austalian dung hole"?
"aspirational values"?

I only care about Carlton (as a club I belong to, and it's always in my blood; forever, wherever) I do not care about a suburb (that's one I can change anytime I wish).

So, are you going to invest some more money into the club? Forget about where we live and how precious it is to oneself? Forget how much we value where we live in the short term? Forget about suburbs (unless you're a councillor) then you'll realise you're defending a futile object compared to your family and our club, the CFC.

We should just all put in and meet at the Carribbean Sunset and put our money towards a good time, a drink, but more importantly OUR CLUB: CARLTON!

We're on the same side, so drop the intimidation; it's not funny; it's not working and it sidetarcks us from why we're here! :wink:

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I am so glad I never grew up in melbourne.

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Bloody Oath Jars.....

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TheBluesMuse wrote:
Bloody Oath Jars.....


Amen, never ceases to amaze me the number of Melbourne people I meet who brag over living in a piece of shit that is a slightly different shade of brown to their neighbours piece of shit.

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Scoresby - now there's a shithole.

ALL OUR FUNCTIONS FROM HERE ON IN SHOULD BE HELD IN BRAYBROOK

Much better than Templestowe. Templestowe's full of poofs.

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What exactly did I describe about the Bullants?...Bulleen-Templestowe is what I referred to in this thread? You must be referring and linking another thread re my comments about Bullants-Carlton association.

Look, re Templestowe, my mates live there, my mates played there, they still live there, my folk etc...I know people there...I love them and vice versa..we're all good people...it doesn't mean the people are bad.....it doesn't mean the suburb is beautiful, pristine or ugly either..it's just not for me....so I did the right thing by you and me and got out!...and I'll be back for xmas day.

I've never heard you like that...home boy style That dialect doesn't come out in your other posts...so I'll take it as a joke, because this is scary.

We're on the same side, so drop the intimidation; it's not funny; it's not working and it sidetarcks us from why we're here! :wink:


Dear Bondi Blue,

1. The Bulleen Templestowe Football Club are known as the Bullants, just like Carlton's affliate.

2. The veneer of suburbian appearance of places like Templestowe were the inspiration of the most popular art of Howard Arkley. He saw the suburban facades as symptomatic of the aspirations of the people of the times in which he lived in.

3. My intimidation was a joke, I didn't mean to scare you, but rather be systematic of the mostly hard working values of the young men of the area I played football with, who - worked hard, played hard and partied hard. Like myself most of their parents moved to this area as poor migrants from overseas or from working class suburbs in other parts of Melbourne. My parents for instance grew up in North Melbourne and Brunswick of the 1930's and 1940's, I have more affinity with the values of these areas that my parents grew up in and instilled in me than say the vacuous aspirations of the social set out in Templestowe. I grew up with common working people of the many ethnicities in Templestowe.

From where I live I am five minutes drive away from a Chinese owned supermarket, a great Indian restaurant, a plethora of Chinese restaurants, a great Scandanavian cake shop, the southern european feel of Bulleen Village Shopping Centre, all the ethnicities coming together in the family - community atmosphere of Aqauarena (the local pool and gym) & only fifteen minutes drive from what attracts me in the 'intellectual' inner city. I'm a pretty solitary kind of person but when I interact with people I like people who just go about living their lives without any pretence, I don't need to live in a metropolis with people leading busy lives under the thought that the occupation of activity is important in valuing intelligence.

Watching the people go into vote at the local primary school, the people of Templestowe are a varied lot - both in ethnicity and class. I agree your impression applies to some of the people out here, but the diversity of people under the surface you under estimate.

Bondi Blue, have a body surf at Bondi for me, I like the beach there, but you have to watch out for very strong under tows.

I was doing chin ups on some fitness equipment at Bondi once and this muscle bound guy came up to me, pushed me out of the way and said, "That ain't how you do chin ups, this is how you do chin ups!" Then he counted out a loud the chin ups as he did them.

Great visual place for a holiday, a community of creative types but too many show ponies.:wink:

When I was younger and living in shared houses, my grandmother told me I should come and live with her, she was of the 'old world' and didn't understand how young people could not live with their families. Whatever your estimates of the surrounds or some of the people of Templestowe, that sort of family fabric is what holds the place together.

As for uniting in the name of Carlton and foregoing vibrant discussion - great in ideals - yet wouldn't that sort of be like making our TC community an online complacent suburbia :?: :-D

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WHAOOOO.............

hey Vintage................you just BLEW MY MIND.............!


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Perhaps it being held at the mecca of Templestowe....






Souvlaki hut?

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Cheers 79 Vintage.

I'm pleased to hear the real you. Well presented and you offer great insight at what lies under the veneer of suburbia.

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the mostly hard working values of the young men of the area I played football with, who - worked hard, played hard and partied hard.


And that's what I do know of the crew who grew up there. As mentioned one of my best mates captained B-T, and he and his crew were always a lot of fun.

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Like myself most of their parents moved to this area as poor migrants from overseas or from working class suburbs in other parts of Melbourne.


And I take off my hat to them for th sacrifices they made in ernest, to improve their lot and give their kids a better future. As I said, there's nothing wrong with the people.

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I'm a pretty solitary kind of person but when I interact with people I like people who just go about living their lives without any pretence


The real people.

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the diversity of people under the surface you under estimate.


Never. Having completed a double major in Human Geography, I fully understand the diversity of a heterogeeous community.

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I was doing chin ups on some fitness equipment at Bondi once and this muscle bound guy came up to me, pushed me out of the way and said, "That ain't how you do chin ups, this is how you do chin ups!" Then he counted out a loud the chin ups as he did them.

Great visual place for a holiday, a community of creative types but too many show ponies.


I don't like to live in the same city for longer than 5 years, so Sydney is really a convenience thing for this moment in time. When I moved back to Sydney for business reasons in '96, Bondi had Melbourne like qualities I enjoyed; similarities to bohemiam StKilda, alternate Fitzroy with a beachside. Incredibly I bumped into great mates who opened the first 'great' restaurants, bars and clothes shops in the area...a lot of Melbournians. I felt at home. Great place, great beach, vibrant and a great perve.

Today, Bondi Beach is different to '96. A lot of trendy pretention hasinfiltrated the area. Nevertheless, it's an ecclectic mix; something for everyone. A lot of muscle men (California style) around, who love to look at themselves in the mirror. No doubt the folk of Templestowe have a lot more to offer to humanity than these small minded bofoons. But I just ignore them...hardly see them in fact. You can't have everything...I'm always on ther look out for utopia, (and I know I can't have an apartment above the Heatley stand).

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As for uniting in the name of Carlton and foregoing vibrant discussion - great in ideals - yet wouldn't that sort of be like making our TC community an online complacent suburbia


Vibrant discussion is stimulating and enlightening. It forces us to question our values and exposes us to new viewpoints. As for personal attacks...I mean personal, and non related to the subject of our discussion, I do not consider vibrant, I find them insulting.

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The veneer of suburbian appearance of places like Templestowe were the inspiration of the most popular art of Howard Arkley. He saw the suburban facades as symptomatic of the aspirations of the people of the times in which he lived in.


Absolutely!

The bi products of suburbia are both positive and negative. However, the townplanners who allowed the developers to dictate a community's needs have a lot of explaining to do, given the car, for most, is the means required to enable one to embrace a community spirit, and a sense of community.

Without a car, one may feel alienated from the outer world. Whatever the case, it has no bearing on what goes on inside the home, the castle, and the quality life of the people within it. Regardless of where one lives, we're all human, and I love all sorts of people; they make my life exciting.

So this function in Templestowe is not about Templestowe. Once in there, the focus is not on which suburb they're in, it's about the stimulation from communication amongst like minded people who are interested in a subject which enriches our lives. We're all appreciative of the family who opens the door and extends a warm welcome to all those interested in offering their time, passion and money for a common cause; a strong Carlton FC.

What goes on outside the castle doesn't matter if we're all having fun.

I appeciate your response.

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Wow.

It's like stumbling into a small cafe full of existentialists and poets in black berets and carlton guernseys.

And Deano's in the kitchen, working the grill. Mrs Caz is taking lunch orders and keeping a watchful eye on the room. And Synbad would be driving the espresso machine, only he's in that greek anarchist joint down the road.


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