Writing a book is easy, re-writing history, considerably more difficult.

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If he were actually to find God, sit with him in a pub and then go cruising down the peninsula with him, it would still be a more likely occurence than him ever beating SOS.

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SOS did leave a final chapter out of his book - there were no words - it was a brown paper bag.



How quickly we forget! You didn't see how Geelong got into that GF by beating Essendon* and Melbourne - the Melbourne game is replayed quite often for his brilliant goals and marks that day in the rain.

By the time the Cats were a force again - (remember it takes more than 1 brilliant footballer as Carlton will find with Judd in '08) - Ablett was 31 when the Cats played the Eagles who double teamed him most of the day. 33 two years later and 1994 was the year the Eagles had it over most and the Cats probably shouldn't have been there and we should have.

he won several finals off his own boot Bob,


I still think he is a wanker though and didn't win a GF off his own boot in how many attempts????

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I also don't think he said he had SOS's measure

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SOS was the only defender in the comp that had Ablett's measure.

I love Ablett but he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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I always thought he was overrated .. OK so he could kick a bag - from memory from my "Every Final Played" book which is still packed away in the garage, GAsnr has the record for the highest number of goals kicked in a final .. doubtless his record in H+A is as impressive ..

He probably doesn't like any full back who had his measure! (Would that be the majority of them?!)

Hird was only a young pup at the time, just learning his own craft .. wonder what it would have been like if J5H of the mid-2000's played on G21A of the mid-1990s?

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In the late 90's, Hird had already won a premiership and a Brownlow. I suspect that SOS was able to keep up because in the late 90's, Hird was as good as crippled.

... and 5 is the number of god ... not 21 or 7 as many (including this froot loop taxi driver I had in Canberra) will have you believe.

EDIT: How 'bout I have half a dozen goes at getting the bloody quotes right... Does that mean i'm pwnd or a noob?

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Regardless, Ablett is still the best player I have ever seen. But SOS pansted him when it mattered most

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C'mon Blueboys!

PLEASE tell me you are joking. Ablett's finals series in 89 was probably the greatest finals series by an individual player in history.

Yes, he got towelled up by SOS in 95, but do you people watch finals involving other teams? He was a monster in big games his whole career. Name me one player who didn't have an off day in at least one big match they played in.

The tunnel vision in this thread is staggering. We are talking about one of the top 3 players in the history of the game.

Impossible.. the 3 top are all Carlton players....

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Ablett failed in 3 of the 4 Grand Finals he played in. There is no pressure like a Grand Final. Yes he was a great player in 1 of them, but that is a pretty poor strike rate and puts him a long way down in my list of champions.

IIRC it wasn't a given that SOS would play on him. In the early 90s when Ablett was playing further up the ground I recall we would play Mil Hanna on him (who usually did quite well) & also Steve Da Rui.

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This thread's rapidly approaching the "funniest thread ever" contender list.

Great player.

I used to go to Geelong games just to watch him. I haven't done that with any other player (including Carey) outside of Kouta...

...and Judd.


flower bloke (more sad than flower though) but it's not hard to separate the bloke from the player.

One of the best I've seen.

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yep, i thought i said that in 89 he was great, not so great the rest of the time imo, that's all.

i'm blinkered, so what?

barry hall is the same, shit hot every game, except when it really counts

synbad beat me to it with the top three comment too

From all reports Jesus was a humble man who preferred to give than receive and never wanted praise or anything in return for his work/miracles...
Gary Snr wants a stand named after him because a terrace isnt good enough, says the stats were manipulated to make Doug Wade look a better player......looks like Gary's foray into christianity only extends to Gary being forgiven for his sins and not him actually giving to or praising others.
Hiding behind christianity wont make people like him anymore than they did when he was a player and I think thats what Gary snr is all about these days....he wants attention and recognition for his past glories and wont move on with his life.......

The book and his outlook on life are sad reading IMHO...

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exactly. i got the same impression reading all the stuff in today's paper. if he was so religious, he wouldn't be talking himself up and downgrading others. all he is doing is making people lose what respect they had for him (in a blatant attempt to get money and attention). poor form.

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QFT. However, it should not be overlooked that being Christian doesn't mean one is perfect. He is as flawed as anyone else.

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Sounds like the modus operandi of most religions I've seen...

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I also agree that SOS has two premiership medallions and Gazza none.
Gazza was one of the greatest INDIVIDUAL players to play the game and in the same breath one of the WORST team players. There is no "i" in Gazza.