Simmo more than played well. He stood up for his teammates when they were being pushed around, he kicked captains goals when the team needs a spark, he put his body on the line when the time came, and through his actions he demanded the same of his teammates.

Yeah but he wouldnt be comfortable to lead Judd.. nor should he be made to.

Its between Judd and Stevo.. Stevo came back abit overweight....
Judd is a consumate pro..

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Judd's gunna be a kickarse leader whether he's captain or not.

Simmo will develop into a fantastic leader given the opportunity.

This club has taken the safe option with the Captaincy since 1987 - and flowered it up every single time.

It's time we identified a youngster and took a punt on him - and we identified Simmo last year as a great potential leader when we were ear-deep in shit.

Simmo is cherry-ripe for this - mark my words.

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Their decisions may not have turned out to be successful since then, but I wouldn't say we made the wrong choice each time.

Bradley wasn't a poor captain, SOS should have been made captain though.

Ratten would have made a great captain, but battled with injury...McKay was only captain a couple of months, but showed great leadership while he was.

Kouta/Whitnall were elected by default. Whitnall was a failure, but due to injury Stevens would have been no better.

Its been a lack of options and leaders rather than poor choices.



This statement works more in Simmo's favour than for Judd/Stevens

Simmo won't get the job, but he'd ge a great choice ordinarily. if you missed the leadership he showed last season then you're not really in a position to be making recommendations for this season.

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Well Trublue,

You are not in a position to tell me I missed his leadership qualities so therefore I am in not position to make a judgement for next year.

I am there week in and week out and I know this team back to front and around again.

This is MY opinion so dont you bag it.

No i dont care what anyone thinks, I saw nothing that suggests to me he is captain material. Big deal if he stood up for others. I think he is too passive, just like Kouta, Bradley and Whitnall were.


Simmo is not the sort of guy that will turn a game that is tight around. Judd is, he has the respect of the whole of the football world. When he talks everyone stops and listens.

It is not a contest, blind freddy can see it.

So yes I am in a position as a long time Carlton member and Talking Carlton member to have my opinion.

Its about the guy best able to turn a game around. If it were then Fev would be a contender.

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It's about the guy who has the ability to turn the team around.....

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Thats a better way of putting it.

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Of course Fev would be a contender if he was not so childish.

I think a captain should be the following:

- A match winner that leads by example
- Someone who is not afraid to say what he feels
- Passionate about Footy
- Someone who has been successfull and knows what is required to be successful
- Someone tough that does not get pushed around
and

MOST IMPORTANTLY

- Someone who can look a teammate in the eye and tell it how it is.

Do you reckon simmo could look Juddy in the eye and tell him to pull his socks, Do you reckon he could look Stevo in the eye and say 'listen mate you are a bit overweight'

Look at all the great captains, they all had that touch of arrogance about them, Hird, Buckley, Riccuito, Vossie they wanted to do the hard things and they were 100 % sure of themselves on the footy field.

Is Simmo 100% sure of himself on the field No. Not yet anyway.

Now Murphy has the touch of arrogance but he is not in a position to lead Juddy yet.

So it has to be Juddy. No other contender.

Judd to Lead
Vice Captain Fevola.

Judd is exactly what Fev needs at Carlton , not only to make him the 100 goal FF but to turn him into the role model that the young ones will not only like but respect also.

The Polish of Judd and the Rough Diamond Qualities of Fev...

Probably not ... but why not ??

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Don't underestimate Simpson's leadership qualities.

Many times last season he could be seen shouting at the team as they walked off, clapping his hands yelling encouragement/support/firing them up. He's hard at it - see the play v Port late last season. Army award nominee. He's vocal. He kicks great goals. He chases down opponents, runs them off, has worked to the top the hard way.

Of course, no one at Carlton can compare to Judd in all the captaincy criteria, except that he's only been at the club a while. And I agree Simmo might feel a bit uncomfortable telling Judd or Stevo to go hard, but hopefully he shouldn't have to.

Simmo is most certainly captaincy material. However, Judd is a more accomplished player/leader, and so I believe it comes down to who has the support of the players. And guess who votes on the captaincy?

Judd's polish? Gosh...new recruiting ground?
Does being polish give you an edge? Mongrel? Silky smooth skills? Or is he in fact..........................


This guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Judd ?




















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Not the players. If they did Lance would never have become captain (as someone tried to tell you).

Nice

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Thatsa good set of criteria you've listed and no doubt Judd fits it all well.

Where we disagree is on Simpsons ability to lead. I have no doubt that if Simmo thought someone was out of line he'd pull them up, Judd, Stevens, whoever.

We may need to agree to disagree though

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this one is making me have seconds thoughts

if we assign waite as captian i reckon he will lift his game enourmously, so it could be worth it.


but we should just go safe and choose stevens.
have Judd, Simmo and Waite as Vice(s)

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Is the role of captain a bit of a two edged sword?

It sounds great but all the off field commitments could become a bit of a distraction over the course of a season.

Judd is the first pick if he wants it or Simmo if he doesn't.

CB

He may officially be a premiership captain in the photos and record books, but wasn't the perception that Judd was the 'puppet captain' when he was at the best coke illegals??

Not Stevens.

People. Please. Stevens would be another captain by default, and we've had too many of these of late.

Has to and will be Judd.

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SIMMO

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