but but but but.... ITS NOT FAIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

You could run an up-market lemonade stand out the front of Boost and have more business sense than Trevor Grant.

He probably eats his own earwax too.

_________________
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

When Graeme Samuels goes after the same the oil company cartel (basically he said this one is too hard) and the retail company duopoly (I suppose this one is too obvious Graeme ) with the same vigour as he has done in the past with Visy Board and Carlton in his role as AFL Commissioner, I will stand back and applaud.

C'mon Graeme - investigation your style is easy. You get a sneaky, snivelly spineless shit who has no guts and offer them immunity to squeal - then the prosecution is easy.


Stephen O'Rielly and AMCOR must be your poster boys.

_________________
"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

To be perfectly honest, I think the article is more a dig at AD and the AFL than it is at Carlton. He isn't criticising CFC for have a plan B - he is bagging the AFL for it's failure to act and inconsistency.

As for the AFL leading the community on any issue - please someone give me an example of this. The most reactionary organisation in Australian sport IMO.

They get a second term and a library when they finish up.

_________________
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" -Winston Churchill

L.M 35-06

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/r ... 13590.html

Tim Lane has his say. Why a week later I'm not sure?

The argument may be that Dick committed his crime at a time he wasnt involved at Carlton. But it looks like the AFL isnt that interested anyway.

_________________
T E A M

yeah..... and thats cos he would be the AFL and sack them all anyway...

_________________
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.

AFL wont do anything they would have been dancing in the isles when Pratt took over Carlton.

One less Basket case to worry about

_________________
If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

In the context of Lane's article, what has Pratt done that has bought the AFL into disrepute in the manner Cousins has?

_________________
This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

Whilst I do not agree with the notion that Pratt has brought the game into disrepute like Cousins, I do feel that the AFL should at least make a comment regarding Pratt's dealings with Visy.

Even a slap on the wrist would be appropriate.


The fact that Pratt, as the leader of 1/16th of the AFL, can undertake extended illegal business dealings and not even be admonished by the AFL for doing so is wrong IMO.

There have been plenty of dodgy directors/presidents in AFL/VFL history, and they pale in comparison to what Cousins has done in terms of the game's reputation.

But to just pretend that Pratt has done nothing wrong is poor form on the AFL's behalf IMO.

Anyway, I'm sure you'll all disagree

_________________
Go Saints

look if they can slap him on th wrist good luck to them...
But they cant and wont...

Meanwhile we have a club to totally rebuild and get it up there to number 1...

Exciting stuff...

And we are doing it in rapid time too.

_________________
Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Well, one of the problems is that you are talking about the AFL dressing him down for somethinng he did when he was not the leader of 1/16th of the AFL.

By Lane's argument, the AFL should also be scrutinising every player 's pre AFL history. He is himself being rather selective, which is of course what we all do.

One can also argue how big a business needs to become before you start accusing it of price manipulation or fixing. I'm no fan of this particular facet of Pratt's business behaviour, but I would argue that there ripoffs spread all through the economy, so why should only the big companies be singled out?

I can't believe Amcor gets off. Price-fixing involves two parties. Just cause they dobbed in Visy shouldn't make them immune from prosecution. Amcor's customers lost as much money as Visy's customers.

_________________
"You're not gonna believe this. The guy killed 16 czechoslovakians. He was an interior decorator."

"His house looked like shit!"

I would warrant that if every organization had the power of the "Office of Police Integrity" to tap phone conversations - then I would say 75% of all executives, ministers, etc - would either be in gaol or have to resign in disgrace.

_________________
"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/r ... tml?page=2

very un-tim-lane-like to write an article which isn't in the best interests of the carlton football club (unless he thinks it is in which case he is a total nutter).

but isn't it good listening to opposition supporters whingeing and moaning that pratt should lose his job. you can just hear the fear in their voices. they want pratt gone big time coz they know just how much he can help make carlton a dominant force again.

_________________
Last edited by true_blue3 on Mon Sep 26, 1981 5:07 pm; edited 92 times in total

I lost all respect for the man, as a true blue, the day after Black Friday... I think he's lost it personally, used to be a very good journalist, now there are heaps better...

HS editor: Tim we want you to write an article about Pratt's issues being just as bad for the game as Ben Cousins

Tim: What? But that's stupid.

HS editor: We need someone to write the article and you're it. Get started.

Not saying that this is what happened but we'd be silly to believe it doesn't happen. We all know what happens to columnists who don't tow the party line and actually express their own opinions (aka Grant Thomas).

KNOB

_________________

That`s ridiculus.Which part of the article do you disagree with?It took a lot of guts to write that.Just because he is a Carlton supporter doesnt mean he shouldn`t write critical articles when they are required.I hope DP stays on as President and think he has done a fantastic job but you cant ignore what has happened.If it was another clubs president we would be reacting the same way.Tim Lane still leads the way as far as integrity in journalism goes.

Tim Lane works for Fairfax...The Age/RealFooty.

_________________
No ones listening till you make a mistake.

Replace Tim with Trevor and you might be onto something there Andain.

_________________
“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.