True but have you ever sat on the eastern side of Docklands when the roof is open - you may still follow the play from end to end - but you still end up frying and suffering from sunglare at the end of the day.

Sorry about that crack about camel - I wasn't referring to your better half only the process.

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As I recall - there was a crowd of 47,000 for a Collingwood -v- Carlton game at Princes Park in 1979 - might have been the famous game where Magro shirtfronted Jezza. So crowds of 40,000 plus were not unusual - although obviously in the standing room piss down the front of your pants because you couldnt get to the stinking toilets behind the scoreboard days.

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Youre wrong.. cos the govt bankrolls Kardinia park for the city of Geelong just like it bankrolls the Grand Prix for the city of Melb...

You have to learn to compare oranges with oranges and apples with apples.

Elliott buggered everything up!!!.... we had first rights at the MCG and he chose to do the unviable thing.

AGRO... the AFL warned us against re developing PP.... "i know"... Elliott decided to push forward.... the AFL backed games there but their viability report warned it wouldnt not be economically viable in the long term... hence them guaranteeing games till probably this year... no longer....
Which was in turn ripped up with the move to the Dome and the G...

But the agreement would have ended by now anyway.....

Short term fixes.. like everything else Elliot was doing in his sunset years....

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Ethically Pratt should resign, in the States he and others would be looking at a jail term.

That said it sort of amuses me that all those Collingwood, Essendon* and Richmond supporters paying extra on thier boxes just to see some of it channelled to reviving our club.

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L.M 35-06

Aint that the truth.

The VFL was a suburban based football competition that boasted crowds for its final series over 400,000 people (only a 4 game series) in 1970.

Now it struggles to match that figure for an 8 game finals series in 2007.


Tribal support -v- Theatre going fusspots.


Yet they still try to have their cake and eat it too by appealing to us all to continue buying memberships.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

What happens to presidents in the USA who begin wars and destroy millions of lives...on lies???

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But you cant handle the truth

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Um, well what should they have done? Move the sun?

By your logic, every stadium in the world should only be half enclosed by a stand(s). The other half should be barren as spectators shouldnt have to engage in eye torture and hence should congragate on non-sun sides of grounds.

Stadium designers should also take into account lunar eclipses i guess.

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Too Legit to quit.

Hard to believe this thread is about Pratt and his Presidency in the wake of the ACCC fine.

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The hatred for Carlton knows no bounds......

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Tell me about it, Warbs! Trevor Grant have really put the boots in here:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html

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They Gathered for their Feast
They Stabbed us with their Steely Knives
But They Just Can't Kill The Beast!" <2016

THE BLUEBAGGER BEAST IS BAACKK!!

Who cares what 'journalist' scum think?

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The people that read them, unfortunately. Expect the Carlton bashing to snowball for a while yet.

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#GUILTY

Our white knight turned out to be a little grey.

FFS, journos taking a high ground, I mean these guys make a living from bending the truth. If Pratt has to resign then just about everyone who has spun the truth, evaded fare, cheated on a test, made a false excuse should be hounded from the game. We all make mistakes, Pratt is no exception.

What amazes me in all this saga is that the journos have been digging the boots into Pratt, but what about the ACCC chairman Samuel turning a blind eye to the other party involved - Amcor?



Pretty strong words right there, but he is only prepared slander Pratt. I don't defend what Pratt has done, but to have one party get off scott free
just doesn't sit well with me. The old saying "you do the crime, you do the time" may be to be changed to "you do the crime, dob someone in for imunity"
I have lost all respect for the ACCC over this matter, I mean for starters how about investingating companies that rip the general public off first, the likes of petrol companies, woolies, coles etc But what would be the point as they would let them off with imunity anyway. They are a desperate department who was given the oppertunity to justify their existance and only interested in fishing for Marlin (prize fish no-one eats) whilst throwing away the flathead.

Well he is in his 70s ... nothing a bit of Grecian 2000 wouldnt fix..

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Yeah its all good.. it just adds to the jealousy and the hate ... nothing new...

win the flag and then we can kick some heads...to a chorus of "not fair".. i love it...

the pathetic clubs all using excuses...

Top of my list on being arrogant towards is StKilda... the most pathetic club in world sport...!!!

I dont practice hubris...

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You can have broadband, vote, and follow your team form inside prison walls too Josh......

The only difference is we have to pay for the roofs over our heads for at least 30 years on average...

That way we are locked into the economic whirlpool.

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Graeme Samuels OPINIONS about jail terms or penalties to my understanding are not law, when was he elected to Parliament or appointed a judge?
If I was Demetriou I'd be very concerned about what Grant is implying about him too. Very unfair and out of order.
The AFL social commentary has always been about players issues, racial vill., drugs, etc. not sure we need them providing "moral" guidance on the virtues of the free market, TPA and corporate law just yet Otherwise the media rights and catering contracts may require a quick revision.

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