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I'm pessimistic about this (actually I'm just pessimistic full stop). I worry that this Judd worship that's going on (amongst the players) is unhealthy. I could be wrong. I hope it is inspiring. I hope it ISN'T "he'll make everything right". I hope it raises the bar. I hope they remember how poor they themselves have been. I hope Jordan remembers how poor he has been. He references how Judd towelled him up. He should remember plenty of people did that to him. I want them all focused on how THEY can improve. On what THEY need to do. A bit of excitement is good, and I'm sure I will stand corrected, but I want to see these young kids get on with it. I want to see Jordan get a flower kick. I don't want to hear how excited any of them are. I want to SEE results. I want to read PBs on the track. PBs in the gym. I want to hear more stories like "Hampson getting a personal trainer and working through the break". I want to read that Jordan Russell can now take a half volley without fumbling, that Andrew Walker can now hit a target, that Paul Bower can outbody Fev in a one on one, that Fev is back off the piss.

I don't give a shit how excited they are. SHOW ME THE MONEY.


And I'd personally like you to be a more positive person when you post on TC. Is that asking too much? If a Carlton player asked you to lift your game here, could you? Would you? Can you? Do you want to?

Just wondering aloud. 8)

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I reckon thats fantastic that Russell finally has someone to aspire to emulate from withn the crowd.
Rather than being given a run with role once a year on a Judd.. he can see him week in week out.. on and off the field and watch what it is that makes a mortal.... immortal.

Judd will probably raise everybody elsearound him a few %.

Fantastic article.. and shits on the rubbish that Kouta brings to the fore about us.

On is looking backwards and the this one is looking forwards.

The Kouta/Denis/Smorgon/Lance/Malouf used by date has expired the people at the club are looking for the next flag!

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still reckon we should trade him...

its dangerous to have good players on our list I reckon.

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dannyboy wrote:
still reckon we should trade him...

its dangerous to have good players on our list I reckon.

nah... next years draft is THE BEST DRAFT EVER!!!!... 2 more picks in the tp 3 ish and premiership assured...!!! :wink:

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Interestingly whilst everyone was getting a free kick at Denis -Russell was much more positive
I think he showed a lot as a lead up target when wiggins was injured last year when he could use his pace to get off his man -stick very close to Juddy JR and you will go far -hoping for a big 2008


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frank dardew wrote:
Interestingly whilst everyone was getting a free kick at Denis -Russell was much more positive
I think he showed a lot as a lead up target when wiggins was injured last year when he could use his pace to get off his man -stick very close to Juddy JR and you will go far -hoping for a big 2008


I agree Frank, I was at the Collingwood game (one of the few for the last lots of years :( ) and I thought he presented well off HF. Here's hoping he can keep his head up and make the most of his opportunities.

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Cazzesman wrote:
windows wrote:
I'm pessimistic about this (actually I'm just pessimistic full stop). I worry that this Judd worship that's going on (amongst the players) is unhealthy. I could be wrong. I hope it is inspiring. I hope it ISN'T "he'll make everything right". I hope it raises the bar. I hope they remember how poor they themselves have been. I hope Jordan remembers how poor he has been. He references how Judd towelled him up. He should remember plenty of people did that to him. I want them all focused on how THEY can improve. On what THEY need to do. A bit of excitement is good, and I'm sure I will stand corrected, but I want to see these young kids get on with it. I want to see Jordan get a flower kick. I don't want to hear how excited any of them are. I want to SEE results. I want to read PBs on the track. PBs in the gym. I want to hear more stories like "Hampson getting a personal trainer and working through the break". I want to read that Jordan Russell can now take a half volley without fumbling, that Andrew Walker can now hit a target, that Paul Bower can outbody Fev in a one on one, that Fev is back off the piss.

I don't give a shit how excited they are. SHOW ME THE MONEY.


And I'd personally like you to be a more positive person when you post on TC. Is that asking too much? If a Carlton player asked you to lift your game here, could you? Would you? Can you? Do you want to?

Just wondering aloud. 8)

Regards Cazzesman


Well I feel let down over a number of years by (some) players at this club just not preparing well enough, not working hard enough, not putting in, blaming others and so on. I guess I'm worn down by it. I guess I have lost a fair bit of faith. Seeing players poorly prepare, hitting the piss hard, getting into trouble, all during a period when we couldn't afford it, has made me question where they were at. Are they here for me? Or just out for themselves? Long before they were here, and long after they are gone, I will still be paying my memberships, turn up and support the jumper, week in week out, in the hope I can watch a group of goers again. Watch a group who stay out of trouble, who have as their main priority getting the most out of themselves. This past year eroded my faith even further. I saw a first year player out until all hours of the night with the skipper. I saw the skipper fat and unfit. I saw the full forward go out and make a fool of himself overseas and then sook on the field. I saw several of the worst hearted efforts I've ever seen for this jumper. I saw only Simmo really look like he was dieing for the jumper for mine. Could have been others, but he ran when he had nothing. Like Braddles used to run. I want to see that from all of them.

So if a Carlton player asked me to be positive, I'd hope they were doing so on the proviso that all that crap is behind us. That they can assure me that they are having a go, and that they are not tolerating anything less in their peers. They are preparing flat out. That if they see a teammate take a short step, either on or off the field, they will NOT tolerate it.

If they told me that my faith would be restored. And I'd be more positive. But in the absence of them asking, I guess I will assume that at the least my negativity is annoying you. And I don't intend on annoying anyone, even if that is too often the case. So I will from this point assume that the players are assuring me they are all having a go, that they are accepting nothing less than 100 percent from their peers. Which is a change from the past.

And I will be more positive, because of course I want to be. From this point forth. Go Blues. I'm with you. Really I am. Just don't make me duck my head in shame again. That's all I ask.


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man i think you're kind of contradicting yourself.

we are all bummed about incidents late in the post/pre season last year and our captain was clearly not a natural leader in a professional climate but he's gone and has been replaced (not as captain) by possibly the best example of what to strive for in the game - in Chris Judd and yet your are critical of the kids new found optimisim?

i'm confused by your stance


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i'm confused by your stance



I'm sure a lot of people said that about Kepler Wessels over the years though Gez.

Really not sure where I'm going with this.

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Chanderpaul. :shock:

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Chanderpaul. :shock:


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Ummm...Lara...!!!!

How about the top hand (right) sitting, twisted right around the front of the bat!

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yep, this confirms it....

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its now becoming obvious what all the trouble at west coast has been caused by........ who would have thought hey?? chris judd is clearly a disrupting influence on the playing group. fancy them wanting to give him a guard of honour?!?!?!?!? and i was thinking that he would aid in the young blokes' development. :roll: :P


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