My take on all this is;
The Carlton Football Club has been the most incompetently administered business I have seen in the period 2000 to 2006.
From the top to the bottom there has been disgraceful, self serving behaviour.
There have been lies and deceit. Nothing can be achieved by dragging up this abysmal saga. Everyone involved should be ashamed. I want my wasted emotions back.
This whole fiasco is embarrassing. Pagan was completely wrong for the club a desperate appointment by a dying president. The players were disloyal from the beginning because of their respect for Brittain , and no doubt the reference from McKernan. The administration knew all this and did nothing. And people tell me Pratt is a crook. OMG. He would not have tolerated this crap.

It is now over. Let’s move on. Let’s close this distasteful chapter in our proud history. Let’s only look back at it to ensure it never ever happens again.
We need an even mix of dignity and arrogance. We have that now.
We have the talent both on and off the field.
Focus on the future. Be proud to go and barrack.
Let’s put the Scum, the Filth and Ninthmond back where they belong.
Number 17 HERE WE COME

My take on all this is;
The Carlton Football Club has been the most incompetently administered business I have seen in the period 2000 to 2006.

My take on all this is;
The Carlton Football Club has been the most incompetently administered business I have seen in the period 2000 to 2006.
From the top to the bottom there has been disgraceful, self serving behaviour.
There have been lies and deceit. Nothing can be achieved by dragging up this abysmal saga. Everyone involved should be ashamed. I want my wasted emotions back.
This whole fiasco is embarrassing. Pagan was completely wrong for the club a desperate appointment by a dying president. The players were disloyal from the beginning because of their respect for Brittain , and no doubt the reference from McKernan. The administration knew all this and did nothing. And people tell me Pratt is a crook. OMG. He would not have tolerated this crap.

It is now over. Let’s move on. Let’s close this distasteful chapter in our proud history. Let’s only look back at it to ensure it never ever happens again.
We need an even mix of dignity and arrogance. We have that now.
We have the talent both on and off the field.
Focus on the future. Be proud to go and barrack.
Let’s put the Scum, the Filth and Ninthmond back where they belong.
Number 17 HERE WE COME

I know that young man [or woman], but as someone who has been on the site for a bit, it pays to be respectful of others people's opinions, even if you do think they are flowered!

I remember getting a clip behind the ears by GWS when I first posted.

TC is a place where you can chat about the one thing that unites us.

Seems to have been a lot of people on the radio today talking about this.


has anyone heard Kouta talk about it today?

I reckon Pagan has been very good about all of this! He knew they went behind his back and still held his head up high.

He could have come out on SEN and blasted Kouta but he didn't and I commend that.

Lucky they are both retired and away from the club at the moment but Chris Judd is probably thinking .. what have I got myself in for?

After going through the Blueseums draft page and having look back through the past players section as well, I reckon I've narrowed it down to two.

Hulme and Franchina.

Leaning slightly more towards Franchina.

Oh give me a break !

He held his head up high?? He only did this cause he wanted to continue to laugh all the way to the bank.

And he didn't blast Kouta because he knows what Kouta said was right, and he wanted to take the moral high ground.

And I don't think Chris Judd could care too much about these events. You're being hysterical.

If memory serves, Franchina had a slight Italian accent, as though he had only been Australia a short time

Here's a question.

Do we think Kouta called Wilson up and said "Hey Jimbo, how about you write a big article in the Hun, using all the nasty stuff in my book about Pagan. Cause like I wanna sell heaps of copies of the book".

It seems to be standard for footballers to have excerpts of their books in the H/S, and naturally they would publish titbits designed to get everyone talking (it worked!).

My question was has anyone heard Kouta himself spruiking the story today? I'd like to hear what he has to say in light of how it has been received.

It seems to be standard for footballers to have excerpts of their books in the H/S, and naturally they would publish titbits designed to get everyone talking (it worked!).

My question was has anyone heard Kouta himself spruiking the story today? I'd like to hear what he has to say in light of how it has been received.

If memory serves, Franchina had a slight Italian accent, as though he had only been Australia a short time

Thats garbage. The guy has no accent. Unless you count Northern suburbs melbourne