Whitnall delisted (p12) - Crows not keen (p22)

Car17on · **Posted:** Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:34 pm

DownUnderChick wrote:

p(12)terg wrote:

Nicko Carstairs wrote:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22578263-11088,00.html
Over for Lance at the blues

Gutless flowers couldn't even tell him directly. But really, the writing was on the wall.

A great career in the Navy Blue, including a Grand Final, Best and Fairest, leading goalkicker several times, and a great football brain.

But the time has come. Don't go the draft, Lance. Call it a day! Go gracefully, go with dignity, don't go like Woewoedin and the other hacks that went the PSD and weren't even taken up.

What makes you say the club couldn't tell him directlywhen the article says that Ratts and Icke told him before flying out to Europe?

The part that says Lance found out through his manager

Kaptain Kouta · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:41 pm **Posts:** 63509

p(12)terg wrote:

DownUnderChick wrote:

p(12)terg wrote:

Nicko Carstairs wrote:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22578263-11088,00.html
Over for Lance at the blues

Gutless flowers couldn't even tell him directly. But really, the writing was on the wall.

A great career in the Navy Blue, including a Grand Final, Best and Fairest, leading goalkicker several times, and a great football brain.

But the time has come. Don't go the draft, Lance. Call it a day! Go gracefully, go with dignity, don't go like Woewoedin and the other hacks that went the PSD and weren't even taken up.

What makes you say the club couldn't tell him directlywhen the article says that Ratts and Icke told him before flying out to Europe?

The part that says Lance found out through his manager

From The Age: Axed Whitnall wants to play on

Emma Quayle and Karen Lyon wrote:

Whitnall said he was surprised by Ratten's decision but had no choice but to accept his fate. "It hasn't really sunk in at the moment; I only got the news late yesterday afternoon so it hasn't really sunk in, so I am a bit disappointed but that is football," he told Channel Nine.

"Brett Ratten sat down and he looked me in the eye and told me that is the way they are going to go and I couldn't argue, that was it."

barass · **Posted:** Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:19 pm

Cazzesman wrote:

The departure of Whits is virtually the final statement in a long line of statements since King Richard came back on board.

This is perhaps the no.1 motivation for moving Lance on. Even IF his knee could maybe have stood the rigours of AFL, he had to go for the club to move to the next stage. Whilst we know he had had a bad knee for a number of years, I (and obviously the club) still can't reconcile how he turned up in such bad condition when he was appointed captain, then miraculously lost 6-7kgs with that same bad knee when he was effectively suspended. Perhaps it was the lack of accountability under Smorgon/Sticks/Pagan, but if Lance was a true professional he would have taken it upon himself to present in the best possible condition. Look at N.Buckley, even when Collingwood were much less professional in the 90's he presented in pristine condition - he has the right attitude. So I don't buy the argument that it was all due to his knees, because he proved he could slim down to a level that was required, albeit for a few months. And there are plenty of players in the league who have dodgy knees, shoulders, ankles that still look after themselves.

I wonder how many of the players would be lamenting the loss of Lance? Me thinks not many, particularly the young guys who do have a professional attitude and present themselves in the best condition they can.

As for Ricky Nixon, he still can't get over how we shipped him off to St.Kilda because he wasn't good enough as a player. I hope you read this forum Ricky, GET OVER IT!

Donstuie · **Posted:** Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:36 pm

It seems such a shame that Lance is listening too much to Nixon and can't think for himself. He should know he can't cut it anymore, how many times does he have to be told? And to top it off it seems he's happy to burn his bridges and tell us to @#$%&! off. There's still a place at Carlton for Lance, but if he keeps listening to flower Nixon he'll turn the club off him big time.

For God's sake Lance, bow out with dignity! Don't go down this road

Blue Arcadia · **Posted:** Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:38 pm

barass wrote:

Cazzesman wrote:

The departure of Whits is virtually the final statement in a long line of statements since King Richard came back on board.

This is perhaps the no.1 motivation for moving Lance on. Even IF his knee could maybe have stood the rigours of AFL, he had to go for the club to move to the next stage. Whilst we know he had had a bad knee for a number of years, I (and obviously the club) still can't reconcile how he turned up in such bad condition when he was appointed captain, then miraculously lost 6-7kgs with that same bad knee when he was effectively suspended. Perhaps it was the lack of accountability under Smorgon/Sticks/Pagan, but if Lance was a true professional he would have taken it upon himself to present in the best possible condition. Look at N.Buckley, even when Collingwood were much less professional in the 90's he presented in pristine condition - he has the right attitude. So I don't buy the argument that it was all due to his knees, because he proved he could slim down to a level that was required, albeit for a few months. And there are plenty of players in the league who have dodgy knees, shoulders, ankles that still look after themselves.

I wonder how many of the players would be lamenting the loss of Lance? Me thinks not many, particularly the young guys who do have a professional attitude and present themselves in the best condition they can.

As for Ricky Nixon, he still can't get over how we shipped him off to St.Kilda because he wasn't good enough as a player. I hope you read this forum Ricky, GET OVER IT!

It's pretty obvious, Carlton gave him a perfect scenario to retire and go out with honor. But he let himself and the club down too many times.

Having a dodgy knee didn't stop him from staying at a decent playing weight and being fit.

Some suggestions that any club doctor or physio would have told him a million times over are:
-Follow a stict diet.
-Do plenty of hydro therapy
-Lots of gym work
-Spend some time in the sauna
-Lots of low impact high resistance work (water and bike)

Sorry Lance, thanks for the good memories, but don't bite the hand that fed you for so long.

Lace Out · **Posted:** Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:36 pm

He is probably spewing that they told him after he took part in the time trial.. :lol:

camel · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:05 am

Bulldogs not keen on Whitnall
http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/bulld ... 99576.html

BlueMark · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:07 am

It was the right decision, how Lance manged to play with the knee the way it was, is amazing.

While he might be upset now, he knows it was the right call.

Goltzenberg · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:19 am

Ricky is just upset cos he getting none of Lance's Money

Sniff Wilson · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:47 am

farewell ginger nut.....

wow....we only have sammy jacobs on the list as the only ranga now....

disappointing.

Car17on · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:55 am

camelboy wrote:

Bulldogs not keen on Whitnall
http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/bulld ... 99576.html

p(12)terg wrote:

A great career in the Navy Blue, including a Grand Final, Best and Fairest, leading goalkicker several times, and a great football brain.

But the time has come. Don't go the draft, Lance. Call it a day! Go gracefully, go with dignity, don't go like Woewoedin and the other hacks that went the PSD and weren't even taken up.

Synbad · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:55 am

Sniff Wilson wrote:

farewell ginger nut.....

wow....we only have sammy jacobs on the list as the only ranga now....

disappointing.

Bring back Jimmy Plunckett or Micky Stinnear...

bluehammer · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:41 pm

They can take me with 36 if they're desperate for Rangas...

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

The last 12 months of the Lance saga was just a real shame and should never have happened in the first place. Just some monumental fu@#ups by certain individuals who seem to have moved aside thank goodness.

Well done Ratts.

Sniff Wilson · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:27 pm

will there be any ranga's around with pick 46??? could be an omen...

what about promoting that MASSIVE unit Sammy Jacobs and giving him the 8? make it the ranga tradition.

blueslander · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:22 pm

marciblue wrote:

Blue Arcadia wrote:

"Carlton have prejudiced that now haven't they by coming out and saying that he's got a medical condition that doesn't allow him to train or play. Who's going to buy the used car? Anyone?" Nixon said.

Give Ricky enough rope and he'll do the rest.
Ricky, you don't need anyone to question your integrity, cos you prove time and time again all by yourself, that you don't have any.
You admitted yourself, that you want to 'flog a dead horse'.
Isn't there a law against false and misleading information.....you drip!

Had a good laugh when listening to that. Came across as a dodgy used car salesman sooking that we revealed publicly Lance's knee concerns and how how this would reduce his chances to continue his career

He must've realised about 30 seconds later how dodgy he sounded so he tried to back-peddle by saying the - "ofcourse they would fully disclose Lance's phyiscal condition to prospective clubs" :roll:

Like if we didn't mention it, no one else would know about it. Wasn't there some injury concerns about Judd? We still took a gamble.

Anyway, sorry to see Lance go. Hope it works out for him in whatever he chooses to do now.

johntall · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:33 pm

On yer bike Lance,
there's always a job waiting at the International Ginger Kids Foundation.
Quote:
"20% of those infected with Gingervitis, know they donâ€™t have souls and pursue a life devoted to Satanism, Paganism, and/or Politics."

Hmm, Paganism... it all makes sense now..

http://gingerkids.org/

grrofunger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:02 pm

Maybe Lance could get a gig ?!?

wrangers are BACK!

Elwood Blues1 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am **Posts:** 4827

Lance did well out of the club and if has invested his money wisely he should not have any complaints......
He underperformed IMHO and we didnt get full value for the money we paid over the journey and it was a good decision from Brett Ratten and Greg Swann and co not to renew his services. Lance and Nixon should have been planning the next stage of his career/life earlier instead of bitching about the timing of the Carlton decision.

Andain · **Posted:** Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:22 pm

johntall wrote:

http://gingerkids.org/

LOL

Quote:

4) Do Ginger Kids have Souls?

Unfortunately no, Ginger Kids are born without souls. A common misconception is that you need a soul to survive. This is completely false. Ginger Kids are people just like everyone else, even if they donâ€™t have souls. Many Ginger Kids live happy, healthy, productive lives devoid of any sort of soul.

5) If a Ginger Kid bites me what should I do?

If you have been bitten by a Ginger Kid immediately wash the wound with soap and water. If you have alcohol or peroxide apply it to the wound. Then call your local poison control for further assistance.

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