I doubt the tests are having much of an influence on the decision.
I'd suggest the Judd trade is impacting on the decision. How many picks are involved and what places will then be remaining on the list would affect the decision.
I personally would move him on ( no surprise to anyone there ) but I'd wait for the dust to settle on the Judd deal and see if we have any bites this week.

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As much as anything, moving him on will make a statement that we are starting again. There's no place for Lance in the new Carlton. We're going forward and it would be another powerful statement that we are leaving our horrid past behind when Lance is cut free. Symbolic, if you like. That's not to say he's the root of all evil but he represents all that was wrong with our past five years.

Even if he doesn't get traded (who's gunna want him?) he won't be at the club next year. What a shame the people running the club a couple of years ago didn't trade him when we had our chance.

I agree but wouldn`t you wait to see if another club offers something?The Dogs or Aints may be intersested considering their forward retirements and a late pick could be offered.He could also be packaged with another deal.

Who is going to recruit an overweight undisciplined forward who possesses the following skill sets:
can’t kick over 40 metres,
refuses to chase
has no second efforts
moves and turns like a camel
can’t play outside of the 50 metre arc

Piss him off now and lets start with a new era at Carlton.
Trade him to Lalor Footy Club for a few kegs

I hear you Rhys but wouldn`t you take pick 50+ if it were offered?It wont happen if we delist him now.We`re better off seeing if there is an offer.

A dinosaur of the Pagan era... that Whitnall is still on the list is almost the greatest indictment on Pagan there is.

We could have traded him 3 seasons ago to Hawthorn for at least 1 second rounder.... we didn't

We could have traded him the year (reputedly) to Melbourne for their first rounder.... we didn't (instead Pagan re-signed him and tried to trade Fevola )

Then Pagan gifted him a B&F by rarely giving him an opponent...... by that time, too "important" to trade, and is made Captain!

Then has an absolutely shocking season and makes us wonder why we didn't trade him 3 seasons ago (or earlier) when we could have gotten SOMETHING for him......

Whitnall is walking proof that Denis Pagan was the worst coach in the history of professional sports, a grade-A moron and a parasite on our club, sucking away all for the glory of his own ego.

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what a cop out Tyrant. I usually agree with you, but this post is just a pagan bash.

Whitnall is on the list because he won the B&F last year, proving he's a good player. Trading Whitnall 3 years ago (when he was viewed by ALL as the future captain) would have fractured the club. Regardless of whether or not it would have been the right move is purely hindsight.

I dont mind people saying we should trade/de-list him. But Denis Pagan is used as a scapegoat far too often on this site.

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Many viewed him as lazy and only willing to look like he is working hard in the last year of his contract, nothing has changed. As Tyrant said, he won a B&F playing as a loose man in defence, and even then his second half of the year was poor.

Whitnall playing that 'floating role' gave it at least a tiny bit of stability when no-one else could play there. With Lance injured this year we had to put Jarrad Waite back there for gods sake, and he didnt do anywhere near as well as Lance. So lets say that Jarrad Waite is proof of the disgraceful coaching from Pagan too shall we?

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Who mentioned Waite?

It could have been a stable defence if Whitnall was able to lock down on a player, but we all know with his mobility/agility that wasn't possible.

i mentioned waite.

the fact we had to put him at CHB this year proves how weak a defence we have. Having Lance back there in the past 2 years has at least provided SOME structure and at least SOME stability as we try and develop some young kids. Played out of position sure, but purely because there was no-one else to do what he did.

Nic

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For sure I would but no club would be willing to set a side a spot on their list for a player where the game has clearly past him by.
That lard has been taking Carlton for a ride for the last 5 years but instead we had clowns like Pagan and Kernahan making decisions without thinking of the future.

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Full ones or empty ones?

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Kenny couldn't agree more!

Have always been a fan of Whitnall but I lose faith in someone who is given the honour of captaining his club yet still doesn't get himself fit enough to play let alone lead!

Axing Homer Simpson from the list saves us $500K per year...and helps absorb what we have to pay Judd.


mmmm...donuts

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Lance will probably be a capable Greyhound Trainer next year as illistrated in the HUN last Friday

You know, TS, I agree with almost everything you say almost every time..........









That is all.

He'll only get better playing the 'floating role' with age...

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Rhys you might be surprised.As i posted earlier, the Dogs or St Kilda may take a punt with their last picks now that Gherig/Hamill and Grant have retired.Lance would still be well suited to the Dome playing inside the 50 with their midfields.

Sure trade him if we can - even for a pick in the 40's. I'm sure that is what the club is angling at.

If no trade eventuates then out he goes.

We simply can't have Lance & Cloke on the same list. For mine keep Cloke. he offers us more flexibility and whilst I have my doubts he will end up being a long term success I would rather go with him than Lance.