It should have been renamed that after McKernan won it.

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Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.

Corey actually was outstanding in the 2nd half of the season, the problem was he was so bad in the first half he should have got minus votes.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

He only bothered doing anything once we were down by 80 odd points.

The master of red time pointless goals.

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Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.

Really? No, that cannot be right.

I remember reading an article halfway through the year saying that Thornton had actually conseded the most goals of all the carlton defenders (in that same article, Gibbs was mentioned as the best).

Do you have any stats or a proof of this................. not calling you a liar or antything, i'm just in disbelief!

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
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You got me I just made them up!

No I saw them on 'On the Couch'.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Actually it was Saddington. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Saddington conceeded the most goals?

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
- Aristotle

Setanta was the only Carlton player mentioned based on these stats after the first 6 rounds but you just jump in without even reading what people are discussing!

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Saddo averaged more goal concedes. I think that stat is way more important that just looking at 6 specific rounds.

Setanta should've got votes in the B&F for his goal celebrations alone. They were golden and worth 2-3 aditional goals per game for inspirational value!

..love yer work..

.. ..we all dig the big Setant', and it's just affection paintin' yer glasses a nice rosy hue.... ..he tries hard, and does a few good things in a game.. ..and that's how us and them have judged his performances and rightly so.. ..i've got faith him in, he should poll alot better next year,, especially when they (fingers crossed) leave him in one/the same position for the season..

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But according to Jars analysis, the big fella still should have got 3 more votes in the B&F... which happens to be a 30% improvement in what he actually got. See, I knew he got ripped off. Thanks Jars!!

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The stat was put on TV after round 5 or 6, he was moved into the ruck not long after that because he was getting thrashed. Next time read the damn thread before you but in with your smart arse comments.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Chill out mate.

Tell me when he got thrashed? The only game that he was beaten (not thrashed) was against the Saints, playing on one of the best of them in Gehrig. Goals kicked against mean a lot less when the midfield is getting cut up and allowing more forward entries than other team.

Add to that that Setanta was playing on the best forwards in the league in a short space of time - Richardson (3 goals), Ottens (0 gaols), LLoyd (5 cheap goals), Brown (3 goals) and Gerhig (6 goals) - and he'd only played less than 15 career games himself.

Some perspective please. A thrashing is Modra vs Silvagni 1994! Setanta can hold his head very high from his first real season. Shame that you can't see that.

I'm happy with Setanta too I was just giving Ryan the reasons why he didn't poll well in the B&F. Getting beaten by your opponent most weeks despite who you are playing on, how hard you try or how long you've been playing won't win you any.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides