Some people see the old style monogram as some sort of mystical talisman that makes men who sport it stand 6 foot taller and eat wildebeest whole without even pausing to spit out the horns.

I'm not one of these people, I like the modern jumper.

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Keep the new jumper and let it create it's own history.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Thats the trouble bluedog,there was never any consultation with(or vote by) the members.They just changed it because some marketing w**ker got paid a truckload to come up with something different.

Yep, that's me. I believe all of the above. I want the players to be linked to Nicholls, Walls, Jesaulenko, Johnston, Richard Pratt etc.... and say yep that is me I have played in the same guernsey as all of the greats of Carlton.

I had a knitted jumper with a sailor's collar on it and the sewn un U14's mum's logo. It was bloody awful to wear and I had to wear a singlet under it to stop the wool irritating me when I trained (I never got to wear it in anger).
I can't believe it was the official jumper of the sixties.
Please let's not bring back that one!!

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Yes he did.


Firstly, it's just NY, not NYC.

Secondly, they have made some changes to their logo over the years.

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Lurker, if you have some evidence that the Yankees have changed their logo i would be welcome to hearing about it, but to me the seminal piece of branding is the NY letters linked together. It signifies strength and unity. There are no gaps between the letters - just NY. People the world over wear their caps in different colours etc but the letters are synonymous with the city and american culture.


The boldness of the CFC on the old Carlton guernseys -thick lettering and all letters joined together - was something more powerful even than the NY on the New York Yankees outfit in my opinion.

No worries.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Yankees


http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/hist ... _logos.jsp

I really don't care what logo appears on our guernsey when we win our 17th; I'll be too busy celebrating to notice.

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Lurker, I went onto that website you mentioned and all throughout the Yankees history the letters N and Y on their cap have been interlocking. Ok they have had minor shape changes, but the point I make is that the CFC letters should be interlocking - no gaps. The gaps to me signify disharmony, and lack of unity.

Go the CFC... one day (other than heritage rounds) i will get to see the CFC back in business, I hope anyway.

we have had gaps in the monogram (both on and off the guernsey and on our logo) for over 100 years.

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Jarusa, I have no problems with gaps in the monogram for the logo as it appears on letters, pens, cups etc. That is fine and I remember buying products in the early 80's with that lettering.

With the guersney it is different. What I want to see is the guernsey as it was from 1920's to 1997 - bold, strong lettering which says we are Carlton and f**k the rest of you.

The 1938, 1945, 1947, 1968, 1970, 1972, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1987 and 1995 premierships were won in this guernsey. It is a guersney of pride.

I thought the point you were trying to make was that we shouldn't change our logo at all (and you were using the Yankees logo, and the Superman logo as examples); not that we shouldn't have gaps between the letters.

I didn't realise that you were being so specific.

So you're alright with our guernsey logo changing, so long as it doesn't have any gaps?

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To me it says "my nanna sewed this chunky arse thing on my jumper".

Each to their own.

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You got a problem with my nanna?

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I like the way we have it now. I admit that I did always find it a little embarassing that Braddles jumper looked different to everyone else's.

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I reakon the old style is best by a mile but could there be room for 3 styles of jumper?The traditional one could be worn for home games,the current one for away games and the alternative strip worn when forced to.This would be a win for all concerned and open another marketing avenue.
Look at the positive reception Brisbane(old Fitzroy jumper) and Hawthorn have had by returning to their traditional jumpers.
As Norm Smith mentioned the jumpers worn in the Heritage games were all even and uniform but i liked the fact that Braddles jumper was different.Each player had their own unique jumper to be proud of rather than the cheapened mass produced synthetic wet suits that pass for gurnseys now.

I do - I left me favourite jocks at her place and the old tart won't give 'em back.

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Watched the 1970 GF last night (again), apart from enjoying watching all the old favourites sticking it to the Pies, one other thing stood out.
They wore ''real'' jumpers, Carlton looked like Carlton , and Collingwood
looked like Collingwood.
Today, Collingwood look like Brunswick and Carlton look like Tongala.
If anyone is in any doubt as to what a genuine Carlton monogram looks like , have a look at any photo of John Nicholls, it doesn't get any better than that.

i like the current one. i understand the love for the old...but i dont know. i reckon our boys will look just as good winning in the new jumper as our greats looked winning in the old.

with NYY, i reckon the pinstripes are just as much a part of the jumper as the logo. i bought a yankees jersey in NY and, i must say...its a classic, no doubt, but our 2007 jumper is better.

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