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Should Carlton lose the last 8 games this season and get the Priority Pick
YES - lets get picks 1 and 3 this year and be a force for the next 10 seasons 83%  83%  [ 123 ]
NO - we will be right with what we've got 17%  17%  [ 25 ]
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Could also mean "take that you so'n'so". "Right back at ya sport"....

I also thought "I don't have to answer to you. I will not now and won't ever."
...meant exactly that.
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Mrs Caz wrote:
Could also mean "take that you so'n'so". "Right back at ya sport"....

I also thought "I don't have to answer to you. I will not now and won't ever."
...meant exactly that.
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Not the last time I looked. 8)


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Well I'm sure Headplant now knows why I post here, as do you, since I answer to both of you. :wink:

Face it, you will never know, and I will never let you know. :wink:

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So's Coutet. :lol:


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Never thought I'd read a half way decent article from Dermott...

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html

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Never thought I'd read a half way decent article from Dermott...

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html


More than half way CB...spot on the money in both his key calls...Sunday and Fevola.

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The Fev one will be interesting to see how the club plays it. And in particular Ratts. I'd say it's odds on that Fev will stay. But, never say never!

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Siegfried wrote:
camelboy wrote:
Never thought I'd read a half way decent article from Dermott...

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html


More than half way CB...spot on the money in both his key calls...Sunday and Fevola.




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would you guys do bullies first pick and either ray or gia for fev?


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would you guys do bullies first pick and either ray or gia for fev?

YES


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would you guys do bullies first pick and either ray or gia for fev?


No Josh. And that's why he won't be traded, because that's as good as the offer could get.

In the Superdraft? Maybe. Regular draft, nup.

Let me say, to those who want to trade Fev but hate tanking, you're being contradictory.

No Fev next year and we'll be having a tanking debate again as we'll not be able to win more than 4,5,6 games. Who's pick 1 in 2008??

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Siegfried wrote:
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Never thought I'd read a half way decent article from Dermott...

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html


More than half way CB...spot on the money in both his key calls...Sunday and Fevola.


Looks like we'll have to tank next year too, and then we'll be right.


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Josh Kaplan wrote:
would you guys do bullies first pick and either ray or gia for fev?


No Josh. And that's why he won't be traded, because that's as good as the offer could get.

In the Superdraft? Maybe. Regular draft, nup.

Let me say, to those who want to trade Fev but hate tanking, you're being contradictory.

No Fev next year and we'll be having a tanking debate again as we'll not be able to win more than 4,5,6 games. Who's pick 1 in 2008??


Hamish Hartlett :lol:

We are aleady planning ahead giving Adam a 1 year contract :lol:

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would you guys do bullies first pick and either ray or gia for fev?


No Josh. And that's why he won't be traded, because that's as good as the offer could get.

In the Superdraft? Maybe. Regular draft, nup.

Let me say, to those who want to trade Fev but hate tanking, you're being contradictory.

No Fev next year and we'll be having a tanking debate again as we'll not be able to win more than 4,5,6 games. Who's pick 1 in 2008??


Wouldnt even do that trade for the pick and both those players. Ray and Gia are receiver types who have nothing to offer us whatsoever.

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Terry Wallace describes this whole scenario well... untenable.

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simonverbeek wrote:
Josh Kaplan wrote:
would you guys do bullies first pick and either ray or gia for fev?


No Josh. And that's why he won't be traded, because that's as good as the offer could get.

In the Superdraft? Maybe. Regular draft, nup.

Let me say, to those who want to trade Fev but hate tanking, you're being contradictory.

No Fev next year and we'll be having a tanking debate again as we'll not be able to win more than 4,5,6 games. Who's pick 1 in 2008??


Provided we can get another mature ruck to support Aisake next year, then I think we could cover the lost of Fev better than that. I'm not saying we'd be ready to play finals (we won't be even if we keep Fev), but I'd be pretty confident we'd finally break out of the bottom four and start going forward.

If you add Aisake and, for the sake of discussion Lade, to the side then Setanta goes back to fullback. Hartlet (if fit) or Austin (if ready) comes into CHB. That leaves you with Waite, Kennedy, Fisher and Kruezer as forward options. That will trouble most teams provided the improvement in the ruck/midfield comes.

So I think you'd have to take a good hard look at any deal that involved the Dogs pick 4. In the end I think it would depend on what the experts think of the quality at the pointy end of the draft.

We all know that this draft is not a "super" draft. But part of the reason last years draft was so super was that the quality extended all the way down into the mid to late 30s. This draft allegedly doesn't have that, but if we have 3 of the top 4 picks, all we really care about is that the top 5 players are as strong as any other draft. Who cares what the quality is like after pick 20?

Last year every club was a winner cause there was someone for everybody regardless of where their picks were. Given players that were routinely thrown up as top 5-10 picks were still around for our priority and 2nd round picks, I presume just about every club was pleasantly surprised at who was around for their first 2 or even 3 picks.

It's actually this sort of draft where the depth isn't as great where you make up ground on every other list. By monopolising the talent from a top 20 players, the remaining talent effectively gets watered down as it is spread out across 15 other lists.

Picks 1, 3 and 4 gives us a world of options.

Kruezer + 2 mids
Kruezer + mid + Rance
2 mids + a non-Kruzer ruck

You could just about resolve all the structural problems in our list. As I said, it comes down to how good we think the top 5 are relative to previous drafts, and obviously you would expect us to push strongly for a better player than Gia or Ray, or an extra pick. But I certainly wouldn't rule out any trade involving pick 4 at this point.


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