No, just that so far they haven't won anything. Also they didn't trade anyone half as good as Fevola so it's different for every team. Saying we should trade so and so because that's what they did is just plain stupid!

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

yeah, that's exactly the point i was making ... well read.

I agree with your views on Fev but if a great deal did came up (which is highly unlikely) then the club would be silly not to think about it.
Hawthorn traded brilliantly on Hay and Thompson, last year we had the opportunity to follow their lead and trade Whitnall where he had some currency. No we are hanging on to an overweight undisciplined footballer who is done and dusted at 28.
Hopefully the club can learn from that type of horrible mistake. With Swanny in charge and not having Denis Pagan around will help us in developing a list that will get us to our next flag.

I believe Jamison will surpass Thornton. I think this Jamison guy can be anything! Austin, Jamieson and Hartlett 193 cm Plus! Our future rely's on these guys!

If Fev stays - great, we have one of the best FF in the comp to lead our attack next year.

If Fev goes, it will only be because the likes of Rodney Eade really had to pull something out of their proverbial to save their own club and coaching career, so the deal would be of great benefit to us.

If Fev was traded, we would lose goals in the short term, but I am sure thatRatts, Icke, Swann, Pratt, etc are smart enough to realise that they would have to recruit some guys to make up for it, eg goal kicking midfielders, ruckman/forward, etc to spread the goals around.

We have kicked goals without Fev this year, so we just have to learn to do it consistently. Obviously that will take time.

We will win whichever way we go because it (the trade week) is all about business decisions in the modern day game.

when did we kick goals without fev? the only time wen we kick goals and fev didnt kick much was against the dogs and port and why was that, because fev got the best defender and often had two defenders on him, which allowed fisher, waite these guys to get the third or fourth defender and gave them less pressure. If you think we can win games without fev, and only fisher, waite, setanta and kennedy in the forward line, your kiddin yourself.

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"I can't wait to win a premiership with this club" - Fev

Which premiership side did that? Sydney? West Coast? Port? Brisbane?

+1

Also difference between fev and franklin is about 6yrs of service. Not to mention it took Fev until much later to pull his finger out and put in some decent performances. Franklin whilst having questionable attitude, is way ahead of Fev in terms of onfield attitude/demeanor/application at the same age.

West Coast.

The WCE traded Fraser Gehrig for David Sierakowski and pick 18.

They drafted Daniel Kerr with that pick.

I love Fev because he is a rogue and a gun, but he is a bad influence on the young players and shoots his mouth off without thinking. It's an insult to Franklin's talents to compare Fev to a kid who is tearing the opposition apart at just 20 or 21 years of age.

I wouldn't have a problem with trading Fevola for two decent draft picks for the reasons Brereton outlined in this article. Melbourne's first and second picks or their first pick and another first round pick would be hard to say no to. They have all the midfield talent they need and selected a team of name players this round despite their lengthy injury list.

The Demons need a replacement for Neitz, not another player like Masten, Ebert, Morton or Palmer who they have a stack of IMO. I'd want draft picks for Fev, not players who are injury prone or are soft outside players.

No to Sylvia or Johnstone.

If we can get a gun with pick 18 why do we need to tank?

Gehrig wanted to come back to Victoria and Sierakowski didn't play in their premiership.

I think it's important to note that in Lappin's SEN interview he claimed that he never noticed Fev's 'dummy spits' on the field and only became aware of it through the media pushing it. There's no question that Fev is equal parts supreme talent and loose cannon, but the issue can be handled in forums outside the trade table. The league is littered with blokes who can play the game but should never have a microphone put in front of them. Fev is certainly one, and the club would surely benefit from silencing his off-field profile and stop him representing the club in his ham fisted way.

Yep....no one is indispensible.....I reckon Fev feels "safe" at Carlton and untouchable.

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As I usually do, I feel asleep watching TFS last night - what did Fev say regarding drugs and tanking please?

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

I'm not too sure his general demeanour has been more surly than usual - I reckon something gives.

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They're both bad for your health

I've been against Fev being on TFS since he started on it; thinking he wouldn't/couldn't handle the celebrity part of the whole circus.

I don't watch it anymore; but I always thought Fev was the replacement for Doug Hawkins as the Village Idiot on the show.

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As usual Fevolution, you read what you wanna read and start shooting from the hip in defence of Fev.
Read the flowering post again, properly and try to analyse something for a change!
I said that those responsible for recruitment at the CFC would change their recruitment strategies to spread the load of goals IF Fev was traded.......

For Flower'e Sake!

lol settle buddy, no need to cry bout it

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"I can't wait to win a premiership with this club" - Fev

I agree with Fevolution...we will struggle to kick goals without Fev and if you want to trade Fev then you need to have a replacement.
Fisher is injury prone and having to take on a key role would only see him copping more physical attention and further injuries.
Kennedy is still finding his way and Waite is too hot and cold and an unreliable kick.
Sure trade Fev and get a 1st rnd draft pick and some other B grader but where is his replacement coming from?

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
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You cant trade a player like Fev just for draft picks.. what if the kids we pick dont come on, then we'd have given away and A grade superstar for nothing in return... I think we shouldnt trade him. but if we did, the deal has to include one or two quality ready made senior players...

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