Brett Ratten named coach - press conference update p23

James Bond · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:40 pm

I went to the Eagles v Essendon* game a couple of months ago (the game where Essendon* won by 1 point and all their supporters then thought they were a serious flag threat this year :lol:

). I ended up sitting in front of Ratts. He was there with Benjamin and JK, and the young guys were writing down notes, while Ratts was explaining different aspects of the game. It was good to see.

James Bond · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:43 pm

If Ratten wins the wizz fizz cup next year, I'm going to be very worried

blueman · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:28 pm **Posts:** 2220

I dont think it will matter if we win the pre season cup or not.

gsker1 · **Joined:** Tue May 10, 2005 11:00 am **Posts:** 449

James Bond wrote:

If Ratten wins the wizz fizz cup next year, I'm going to be very worried

Always need the money ;-)

Donstuie · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:24 am

I dunno about this, Carey's rarely wrong :wink:

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:03 am

Elwood Blues1 wrote:

They then interview all the prospective candidates who come along and put forward their presentation and power point display and then narrow that group down to a select few who then go through another interview process and in the end come out with a Super coach who then has to impress Dick Pratt who in turn will look to his right and say

What do you think Sticks and Swanny

Why waste the time

I hope I managed to get the quote bits deleted correctly, if not, sorry about that.

There was once a process undertaken in the Australian Army to design the camouflage pattern uniform. The people appointed to come up with the design went into the Australian bush and took photos and samples of all the colours that were there in various climate zones in order to come up with the correct colour mix. They then fed the details into some whizz-bang computer (probably had less oomph than the one I am now using) and came up with a combination ofpatterns and colours that supposedly would render the wearer of the said camos, 'invisible' in the Australian bush. They then proudly took this design, which had no doubt cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, to the head sharang of the Army.
"I don't like it." he said.
So we ended up with the one we now have, which was presumably one he liked. (read 'camos' or 'coach' here, whichever you like).
I think the above quote from Elwood has a lot going for it and probably reflects the reality of it all. Anyway, we have a new coach. Lets get behind him and stuff the process that went before. It's a done deal.

verbs · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:40 am

Josh Kaplan wrote:

Thats probably not worthy of a reply, but I think their opinion holds more weight then Steve Kernahans or Adrian Gleesons or mine or particularly yours to be perfectly honest..

How about the lads on the couch stick to doing what they do best, I stick to doing what I do best and you stick to doing what you do best?

Everyone will be happy then.

verbs · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:46 am

James Bond wrote:

I went to the Eagles v Essendon* game a couple of months ago (the game where Essendon* won by 1 point and all their supporters then thought they were a serious flag threat this year :lol:

). I ended up sitting in front of Ratts. He was there with Benjamin and JK, and the young guys were writing down notes, while Ratts was explaining different aspects of the game. It was good to see.

This is why "the process" can only be applied to a degree. Ratten's conduct all year has been much more revealing than anything that could be gleaned from an interview or a discussion by the couch boys.

The above, much like the report that Ratten was having dinner with the younger players at Kouta's restaurant, shows just how good an appointment he is.

camel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:31 am

Blue Sombrero wrote:

I hope I managed to get the quote bits deleted correctly, if not, sorry about that.

There was once a process undertaken in the Australian Army to design the camouflage pattern uniform. The people appointed to come up with the design went into the Australian bush and took photos and samples of all the colours that were there in various climate zones in order to come up with the correct colour mix. They then fed the details into some whizz-bang computer (probably had less oomph than the one I am now using) and came up with a combination ofpatterns and colours that supposedly would render the wearer of the said camos, 'invisible' in the Australian bush. They then proudly took this design, which had no doubt cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, to the head sharang of the Army.
"I don't like it." he said.
So we ended up with the one we now have, which was presumably one he liked. (read 'camos' or 'coach' here, whichever you like).
I think the above quote from Elwood has a lot going for it and probably reflects the reality of it all. Anyway, we have a new coach. Lets get behind him and stuff the process that went before. It's a done deal.

How many times have Australian troops fought in the Australian bush? Maybe he didn't like it because the process was flawed to start with. :lol:

buzzaaaah · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:31 am **Posts:** 17893

I don't always agree with Verbs so I'll give him credit when its due.

BIBI01 · **Joined:** Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:43 pm **Posts:** 322

mjonc wrote:

BIBI01 wrote:

Ockham's Razor wrote:

So far this "new" board has not put a foot wrong.

They promised a turn around in finances - it has been delivered;

They promised a turn around in the admin area - it has been delivered;

They promised hope for the supporters - it has been delivered;

Why do the conspiracy theorists think that simply because Sticks was involved in the appointment of Ratten that our very well credentialed and thus far successful board, would blindly follow him if the decision was not in the club's absolute best interest.

Perhaps they have managed to get this one right as well. Time will tell but slagging the club has become an art form for some on here.

they didn't act on the pagan - mitchell fiasco, allowed a ridiculous situation to bubble along, while all could see it was distraction and not a situation that should have continued as it was not moving the club FWD.

other than that there is nothing significant that they have botched up.

For good reason. They didn't want to pay out Pagan six months earlier than needed.

the development of our players is way more important than a few dollars.
we have shown even though we are in debt we are still prepared to spend money when it will benefit the club.

If the decision was always going to be to sack pagan money would not have been the issue as pagan had a contract and still needed to get paid his contract.
its the same amount if you do it in Feb, July or Oct.

AIRCAV · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:03 am

heres an idea. Instead of the usual '20 20 hindsight' that we always exhibit, how about those 'unhappy with the process', put their hand up and be forever marked as such. This happy can also be so tagged.

Then if things go bad/good, only those appropriately tagged are 'allowed' a certain say.

eg those happy with the process can't then bitch and complain at how Ratten got the job.

Those 'unhappy' with the process, can't then say to all what a great appointment Rats is if he truns out to be good.

:-D

cj69 · **Joined:** Mon May 14, 2007 12:06 pm **Posts:** 2098

Anyone hear his press conference this morning?

Apparently made it very clear that FEV will NOT be traded

camel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:47 pm

I could have recorded it if anyone told me what time it was on, and assuming that FoxSports News covered the press conference live.

I was going to set my recorder up to catch FSN all day, but forgot. :oops:

buzzaaaah · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:31 am **Posts:** 17893

He also said finals by 2009 is an achievable goal. Pessimistic bastard :wink:

GWS · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:03 pm

Mark J wrote:

Scott Burns on SEN today (btw, the only filth player i remotely respect) said that Ratts was the best first touch/clearance player he had ever seen. High praise, let's hope he can impart that knowledge on to our young mids.

That's amazing. :shock:

How did Scott Burns grow up to be an AFL footballer without ever seeing Greg Williams play the game...? :lol:

camel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:17 pm

'Let's get a bit of that arrogance back'
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/Default.asp ... wsId=49528
[quote]NEWLY installed Carlton coach Brett Ratten knows he has a mountain to climb as he sets about returning the club to glory, but he has a firm view on where to start his long journey.

â€œOur spirit is the main thing,â€

gerry atric · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:35 am **Posts:** 2125

I agree with Elwood and Josh re the process but I am pretty happy with the result. Certainly much prefer Ratts to dopey Vossy. I am not sure why they wouldn't have spoken to Bailey and HArdwick, perhaps they did some background and weren't impressed. I'm not sorry we didn't go for Hardwick and I can't warm to McKenna, seems very dull.

Ratts seems to have a genuine rapport with the players that DP didn't have, and he has always been a student of the game. I am not sure he is as ruthless as some coaches and that has plusses and minuses. I wanted a better process than appears. I admire Sticks for his great loyalty but he has a bad track record with decision making. I think the decision was made much harder by sacking DP before the season's end and putting in Ratts. But then again he has impressed. I had hoped Greg Lee would be more involved, I think he runs a recruitment company. Not sure if we need a battery of psych test for a known quantity.

I suspect Ratts may be a bit like Britts who many here wanted dumped for DP but who I liked. We have come full circle. I remember some prominent posters delighted that DP was coming and was going to savage the players etc. Now we have a players coach. The main thing, aside from tactical nous which he seems to have, is that he gets the balance right between supporting players and still being tough and uncompromising. The 2 year deal is a great idea after the Pagan tenure. In two years we will know a lot about Ratts capabilities and with 3x#1 picks, a 2,3,4 and 5 other top 20s , he should have the makings of a very good side.

cj69 · **Joined:** Mon May 14, 2007 12:06 pm **Posts:** 2098

Ratts stated that the whole football department will be reviewed.

Possibly only Croscisca to stay. Chance to get some good people in!

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

If people are satisfied with the result of the 'process', how then can the 'process' be deemed incorrect :?:

..oh, and Scotty Burns is a class act.

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