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mate his an A-Grade footballer whether u like it not, just face it.

So if his not, is simmo? murph? setanta?




nobody questions his ability, or the fact that he played hurt yesterday, but his attitude on the field hasnt changed and that cant be tolerated.

and he has had enough chances. I would trade him if the right deal came up, which is unlikely as opposition clubs know what they are getting.

If you class the top echolon of players in the top 5 % Fev comes up short.
He would be there except for his sooky attitude. With the new coach , hopefully any actions like yesterday wont be tolerated if he stays in 08.

Face it the guy is a dill and at times is an embarrasment to the club.
Granted he has been one shining light in a dim time for the club, but with exciting times ahead in 08 and beyond, Fev can only be in the club's future plans if he doesnt spit the dummy anymore.

How many more chances do you give this guy at 27 years of age next season.


Agree 100% Surely we cannot be pinning our hopes for the future on someone so unpredictable:-D


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What I want to know is why the lovely people who want Fev traded because of his "petulance" only surface after he has a poor game? All you brainiacs seem to suddenly vanish when he comes out and kicks a bag.

I think the pro traders get sucked in by the extreme media beat ups that Fev is a victim of. Every game is Fev watch and as soon as he so much as looks at an umpire it's lets talk about Fev's poor attitude time.


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What I want to know is why the lovely people who want Fev traded because of his "petulance" only surface after he has a poor game? All you brainiacs seem to suddenly vanish when he comes out and kicks a bag.


You're not looking very hard, are you?

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welcomebackcattogio wrote:
What I want to know is why the lovely people who want Fev traded because of his "petulance" only surface after he has a poor game? All you brainiacs seem to suddenly vanish when he comes out and kicks a bag.

I think the pro traders get sucked in by the extreme media beat ups that Fev is a victim of. Every game is Fev watch and as soon as he so much as looks at an umpire it's lets talk about Fev's poor attitude time.


I would love to see Fev put in week in week out but the fact is he doesn't.
Maybe if he didn't have so many 'poor games' we wouldn't be talking about him.

If you want my honest opinion regarding Fev is that I have never been a fan since I saw him in the Doco 'The Draft'. Get a copy of it (I am happy to send you mine) and you will see that he acts the same now as he did then.

When it comes to this great club I can handle players not being good enough, I can handle mistakes, sometimes I can nearly handle losing (maybe) but the one thing I cannot forgive is when players GIVE UP and Fev does this too often. He puts himself before the club and in my book that is not good enough!!!!!


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isnt well liked? u serious, then how come fev said wen he got suspended, pretty much all players told him to come back, also just go down to trainin and you could see all the players get a long with him well. He wants to stay and the club want him to stay. Some people just have to realise that fev is our best player and our only A-grade footballer. Simmo has done well, but still has a bit to go, so to has murph, fisher, carrots. I read on this website some guy sayin fev is not an A - grand footballer, well his kindin himself, fev is one of the best players in the game, his been playin injured all year, his had a "bad" year yet his kicked 60 goals and is 3rd in the comp. And we cannot afford to get rid of a player like fev, in a team that lacks quality players we cannot afford, we have been at the bottom for the past 5 years, we simply cannot afford to. Ratts has come in and they have a good relationship and i really see feva being very good under ratts. Tradin fev for a couple of draft picks would be absolute stupid getting a couple of youngsters who could be anything and do nothing, its a risk. All this talk is bullshit.


"Liked", mmm. Now, how did he go when the players had to vote for a Captain? Try last. It is VERY WELL known within club circles, too. It is also VERY WELL known that it was a major reason for the Freo dummy spit spectacular.

Insert "tolerated" for the word "liked".


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cj69 wrote:
welcomebackcattogio wrote:
What I want to know is why the lovely people who want Fev traded because of his "petulance" only surface after he has a poor game? All you brainiacs seem to suddenly vanish when he comes out and kicks a bag.

I think the pro traders get sucked in by the extreme media beat ups that Fev is a victim of. Every game is Fev watch and as soon as he so much as looks at an umpire it's lets talk about Fev's poor attitude time.


I would love to see Fev put in week in week out but the fact is he doesn't.
Maybe if he didn't have so many 'poor games' we wouldn't be talking about him.

If you want my honest opinion regarding Fev is that I have never been a fan since I saw him in the Doco 'The Draft'. Get a copy of it (I am happy to send you mine) and you will see that he acts the same now as he did then.

When it comes to this great club I can handle players not being good enough, I can handle mistakes, sometimes I can nearly handle losing (maybe) but the one thing I cannot forgive is when players GIVE UP and Fev does this too often. He puts himself before the club and in my book that is not good enough!!!!!


hey mate i was wonderin could i get a copy of the doco?

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Donstuie wrote:
welcomebackcattogio wrote:
What I want to know is why the lovely people who want Fev traded because of his "petulance" only surface after he has a poor game? All you brainiacs seem to suddenly vanish when he comes out and kicks a bag.


You're not looking very hard, are you?


Nah, but feel free to point me in the right direction


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It's pretty simple folks.....

when Fev's on, he's a matchwinner and we all love him....ie rd 3 against the Bummers.

Then when he's not, he's a disgrace.....ie yesterday against the Bummers.


All we want is for our players to TRY.....not give up.


I don't care if he doesn't get a kick...as long as he TRIES!

Fevolution... who cares whether he's an "A" grader or not... he needs to be a TEAM player. I'd rather 10 Fishers or Simpsons than a selfish Fevola.

As the Big Dipper said....."players today just don't get it"

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Fevolution wrote:
cj69 wrote:
welcomebackcattogio wrote:
What I want to know is why the lovely people who want Fev traded because of his "petulance" only surface after he has a poor game? All you brainiacs seem to suddenly vanish when he comes out and kicks a bag.

I think the pro traders get sucked in by the extreme media beat ups that Fev is a victim of. Every game is Fev watch and as soon as he so much as looks at an umpire it's lets talk about Fev's poor attitude time.


I would love to see Fev put in week in week out but the fact is he doesn't.
Maybe if he didn't have so many 'poor games' we wouldn't be talking about him.

If you want my honest opinion regarding Fev is that I have never been a fan since I saw him in the Doco 'The Draft'. Get a copy of it (I am happy to send you mine) and you will see that he acts the same now as he did then.

When it comes to this great club I can handle players not being good enough, I can handle mistakes, sometimes I can nearly handle losing (maybe) but the one thing I cannot forgive is when players GIVE UP and Fev does this too often. He puts himself before the club and in my book that is not good enough!!!!!


hey mate i was wonderin could i get a copy of the doco?


Not worries, I have it on tape


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Mark J wrote:
It's pretty simple folks.....

when Fev's on, he's a matchwinner and we all love him....ie rd 3 against the Bummers.

Then when he's not, he's a disgrace.....ie yesterday against the Bummers.


All we want is for our players to TRY.....not give up.


I don't care if he doesn't get a kick...as long as he TRIES!

Fevolution... who cares whether he's an "A" grader or not... he needs to be a TEAM player. I'd rather 10 Fishers or Simpsons than a selfish Fevola.

As the Big Dipper said....."players today just don't get it"


Mark J

I agree 100% but how many chances are enough?


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Fevolution wrote:
isnt well liked? u serious, then how come fev said wen he got suspended, pretty much all players told him to come back, also just go down to trainin and you could see all the players get a long with him well.
Did they want him to be captain?


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cj69 wrote:
Mark J wrote:
It's pretty simple folks.....

when Fev's on, he's a matchwinner and we all love him....ie rd 3 against the Bummers.

Then when he's not, he's a disgrace.....ie yesterday against the Bummers.


All we want is for our players to TRY.....not give up.


I don't care if he doesn't get a kick...as long as he TRIES!

Fevolution... who cares whether he's an "A" grader or not... he needs to be a TEAM player. I'd rather 10 Fishers or Simpsons than a selfish Fevola.

As the Big Dipper said....."players today just don't get it"


Mark J

I agree 100% but how many chances are enough?





I think it's probably time to test the waters.

BTW.....Lance needs to go, he's had enough chances as well :wink:

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Mark J wrote:
cj69 wrote:
Mark J wrote:
It's pretty simple folks.....

when Fev's on, he's a matchwinner and we all love him....ie rd 3 against the Bummers.

Then when he's not, he's a disgrace.....ie yesterday against the Bummers.


All we want is for our players to TRY.....not give up.


I don't care if he doesn't get a kick...as long as he TRIES!

Fevolution... who cares whether he's an "A" grader or not... he needs to be a TEAM player. I'd rather 10 Fishers or Simpsons than a selfish Fevola.

As the Big Dipper said....."players today just don't get it"


Mark J

I agree 100% but how many chances are enough?





I think it's probably time to test the waters.

BTW.....Lance needs to go, he's had enough chances as well :wink:


Yep, its time to look to the future and Fev and Whitnall aren't a part of it!!


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cj69 wrote:
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welcomebackcattogio wrote:
What I want to know is why the lovely people who want Fev traded because of his "petulance" only surface after he has a poor game? All you brainiacs seem to suddenly vanish when he comes out and kicks a bag.

I think the pro traders get sucked in by the extreme media beat ups that Fev is a victim of. Every game is Fev watch and as soon as he so much as looks at an umpire it's lets talk about Fev's poor attitude time.


I would love to see Fev put in week in week out but the fact is he doesn't.
Maybe if he didn't have so many 'poor games' we wouldn't be talking about him.

If you want my honest opinion regarding Fev is that I have never been a fan since I saw him in the Doco 'The Draft'. Get a copy of it (I am happy to send you mine) and you will see that he acts the same now as he did then.

When it comes to this great club I can handle players not being good enough, I can handle mistakes, sometimes I can nearly handle losing (maybe) but the one thing I cannot forgive is when players GIVE UP and Fev does this too often. He puts himself before the club and in my book that is not good enough!!!!!


hey mate i was wonderin could i get a copy of the doco?


Not worries, I have it on tape


thanks heaps, just let me know wat u want me to do, coz i really want it, ive been lookin for it for months.

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Not sure what the issue was with his game on the weekend.

Although he spat the dummy and allowed MM to run off, he did chase him like crazy.

I think we are too hard on some players who are carrying injuries and expecting them to perform at their usual high level.

If anyone has ever had a groin injury will tell you, it not much fun running around all day and once and while you would like it to be just a little bit easy and have the ball handed to you.

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Fevolution wrote:
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cj69 wrote:
welcomebackcattogio wrote:
What I want to know is why the lovely people who want Fev traded because of his "petulance" only surface after he has a poor game? All you brainiacs seem to suddenly vanish when he comes out and kicks a bag.

I think the pro traders get sucked in by the extreme media beat ups that Fev is a victim of. Every game is Fev watch and as soon as he so much as looks at an umpire it's lets talk about Fev's poor attitude time.


I would love to see Fev put in week in week out but the fact is he doesn't.
Maybe if he didn't have so many 'poor games' we wouldn't be talking about him.

If you want my honest opinion regarding Fev is that I have never been a fan since I saw him in the Doco 'The Draft'. Get a copy of it (I am happy to send you mine) and you will see that he acts the same now as he did then.

When it comes to this great club I can handle players not being good enough, I can handle mistakes, sometimes I can nearly handle losing (maybe) but the one thing I cannot forgive is when players GIVE UP and Fev does this too often. He puts himself before the club and in my book that is not good enough!!!!!


hey mate i was wonderin could i get a copy of the doco?


Not worries, I have it on tape


thanks heaps, just let me know wat u want me to do, coz i really want it, ive been lookin for it for months.


Email me your postal address and I will send it to you!!


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Email me your postal address and I will send it to you!!


DONT DO IT cj!!!

You are the only person on this site that can criticise Fevola without Fevolution dirtying up.
At the moment, that tape is giving you diplomatic immunity! :wink:

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Can anyone plz enlighten me as to who will actually be kicking our goals given that fev is traded elsewhere?


I'm not for or against a Fev trade, but while your point has some merit it is also arguable that we could function reasonably effectively without Fevola.

Round 10: 21 goals kicked, 1 by Fevola.

Round 11: 22 goals kicked, 2 by Fevola.

And Brad Fisher has kicked 39 goals to date this year. So there's at least one 40 goal per year player for you.

I concede the above highlights are isolated and do not paint a consistent picture of our goal scorers, but it does show that if Fev was traded and the coach had to plan for 2008 without Fev on the list that there is evidence to suggest we wouldn't be the barren forward line you suggest.


I don't buy that Camel.

With Fev not there do you think we would have kicked all those goals during that time. Fev would of had 2-3 players following him when the ball came in which other players were free.

Fev not playing means Fisher gets the best fullback and so on.


I didn't say those stats were foolproof and yes, they are simplistic in their analysis. I don't deny the other guys would need to step up, eg. Fisher would probably get the best defender. Conversely, how many more goals might a Fisher type get if Fev is not in the forward line? Think positive. Like I said, I'm not for or against a trade for him.

But, read the last sentence again.

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