He could not read the play. I think he is gawn

Lance showed today what he showed last week for the Bullants, if he's hit lace out he looks good, if he has to make a second effort for it he's shot. Didn't do enough to earn a game last week in my opinion, another two charity games to come.

Fev's out for the rest of the year.

He looked good early, needs a few games (which we don't have) under his belt.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Very few players come back from an extended layoff and play at their best. However, if Lance dishes up what he dished up today over the next two weeks then I fear that it is all over. As well as being slow his disposal is attrocious. We don't need him anymore.

SURELY they're only playing him to try and get something for him in a trade. The bullies 3rd rounder would be a coup.

Yes it would.

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" Koutoufides has taken the last quarter by the scruff of the neck..." Commentary Drew Morphett Last Qtr '99 Prelim. Pure Gold.

Thanks for the memories Kouta. You are and always will be a True Blue Carlton Legend. #43.

What would be the point of trading Lance for a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick?

Carlton are struggling for leaders out there on the field, u dont do any good with no leaders out there on the field

its his first game back and he was playing on Flectcher and Lucas

2 top players

Give him a chance

He will probably win us the last game of the year and do the same fitness thing again all next year and the year after and get in Fev,Fisher and Kennedy way,he isn't a leader never been in my opinion and probably most,no leader is told to get fit and lose that weight that has been discussed.

That is so unprofessional and it's being going on for years, all that tell us we are bad club in putting strict rules with fitness or somewhere along the line the club hasn't worked with the right diet/fitness for him until now if he has a problem putting weight on when he is injured or not 100% fit.

2nd round pick is pick 20-30,could get another good young player that could play for years for us even thou this draft isn't as good as others,the guy would possibly be a o.k player,but you never know but i would be surprised to see any club give away a second round pick.
Some club might take a chance with a 3rd round pick.

Was that when they were tossing the coin?
Because apart from that he had 9 ineffective disposals, 4 critical errors and 1 contested mark. Not sure whether anyone would rate that as good output for CHF captain who is on $400k.

Agreed. Lance & Houla for Griffin

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There's so much I could say...

Get the best offer for both and get rid of them!!!

There is no doubt in my mind that they are very talented players but with the young list we will have next year it is not good enough to have two senior players being overweight or having a whinge everytime the umpire doesn't give them a free kick.

That is part of the current culture that Ratten must see as a priority to get rid of.

They are not going to part of the next Carlton Premiership anyway and with leaders coming through like Stevens, Simpson, Murphy etc WHY do we need them.

Considering he could barely break out of a walk earlier in the year he moved really well.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

we need fev and id love for him to stay.

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"In fairness it did seem in the early days of the draft teams would just pick a name totally at random out of a hat. I'm pretty sure we picked James Cook at #2 one year. The mediocre forward, not the explorer" - Me, 12/9/2011

Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

See thats better

Rather Russell then houlihan to go
Russel is poo
houla is the only one that can kick it to fevalenko

but dont trade whitnal for a draft pick. We got atleast 15 rookies including this years draft coming thru and they need older players around.

If you wanna just keep getting draft picks and not retain any older players it will be the year 2012 plus before we have a crack at the premiership.

How many teams have won a premiership with an avg of under 25 on their list?

whitnall is G. A. W. N!!! that display was as insipid and pathetic as i have seen from an AFL standard footballer. he couldn't make it to contests, his disposal was rubbish, he was useless below his knees..... knees, or should i waist. if he has half a clue he should realise it is all passing him by, and pull the pin himself. if he wont the club must take the decision out of his hands, and delist him. jump or get pushed lance.

he is not a leader. he is not a mature body. he is a liability.

Goltzenberg, stop using numbers in an attempt to support your claims...cos its making no sense. i get the feeling you dont actually watch the matches, but like channel 9 are a fan of trying to prove all manner of things by way of statistics.

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"In fairness it did seem in the early days of the draft teams would just pick a name totally at random out of a hat. I'm pretty sure we picked James Cook at #2 one year. The mediocre forward, not the explorer" - Me, 12/9/2011

Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

What leadership qualities will we be missing? That it is okay to play overweight or that if you don't get a free kick you stand and whinge whilst your opponent runs away with the ball?

I believe without them the natural leadership qualities of Stevens, Simpson (who has been awesome the last few weeks) and Murphy will shine through.

We need to change the culture and getting rid of Whitnall and Fev would help tremendously!

Geez, Goltz... Lance a leader? Lance is the last guy you'd choose to lead a bunch of young, professional footballers.

Even after being HONOURED with the captaincy of this great club, he couldn't even bring himself to do what was required to keep his weight to an acceptable level.

Lance isn't a leader's a-hole, and for the sake of fast-tracking player development, I'd get him out of the place as quickly as possible.

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