Kreuzer Cup conspiracy

johntall · **Posted:** Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:41 pm

Heard Swan say that Carlton will make decision on coach appointment within the next two weeks (in time for the Round 22 Kreuzer Cup). Is the timing significant? If Ratten gets the coaching job then a loss to Melbourne will not bother him, because he is set for 2008. Should Ratten be overlooked for another, then Ratts wont be that bothered either. If the Blues are still sitting on only 4 wins, and in reach of a priority pick, then everything points to 'tank'. As for the players, could they have been told that their futures were decided after round 21? Will one more loss make that much difference to players, membership, sponsors and reputation, when balanced against draft picks 1 and 3 (as oppossed to just pick 4)?

Jez1966 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:42 pm **Posts:** 2833

It would only be the Keutzer Cup if we were playing Richmond :wink:

camel · **Posted:** Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:42 pm

Kreuzer is already ours, assuming we don't climb ahead of Melbourne.

As if Terry Wallace will recruit anyone over 6'2". :lol:

Siegfried · **Joined:** Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:30 pm **Posts:** 2864

As much as I'd love the PP, I actually think we'll beat Essendon* this week. They're a bit of a rabble, and have only won 2 of their last 12 at the 'G.

nightcrawler · **Joined:** Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:48 am **Posts:** 2891

Siegfried wrote:

As much as I'd love the PP, I actually think we'll beat Essendon* this week. They're a bit of a rabble, and have only won 2 of their last 12 at the 'G.

How many of our last 12 have we won at the G?

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 18044

Our record at the G is quite good actually.

Comparatively speaking.

LostInSyd · **Posted:** Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:12 pm

I cant see us dropping a game to Essendon* at the moment, they are a rabble.

Car17on · **Posted:** Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:39 pm

nightcrawler wrote:

How many of our last 12 have we won at the G?

2007 R18 lost to the Filth
R14 lost to the Ds
R10 beat the Bullies
R7 lost to the Filth
R3 beat the Bummers
R1 beat the Tiges
2006 R21 lost to the Filth
R16 drew with the Bummers
R8 lost to the Aints
R6 beat the Bummers
R5 lost to the Tiges
2005 R21 lost to the Bummers
source - www.footywire.com

gsker1 · **Joined:** Tue May 10, 2005 11:00 am **Posts:** 449

Yeah, I think we would probably beat Essendon* .. but please, please, get this priority pick!

Molly · **Posted:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:40 am

I dunno...

people get a bit ahead of themselves. Sure Essendon* are rubbish... but to beat them would require a much greater showing than we gave on the weekend. The only reason we got back into the game was that Port went to sleep. And even if you watch the third quarter again, you will see our guys make mountains of mistakes. I just think a win against Essendon* is unrealistic on Saturday's form.

Oh... and remember that it sounds as if it is possible we will have the captain back. Now that is what I call tanking!

nytdog · **Posted:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:53 am

The Blues are inside Essendon*'s head. If we get a run on during the game, the Dons may just lose the plot. I really think we are the favourites for this game. It will take some interesting coaching moves for Ratten to ensure we lose this one.

camel · **Posted:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:03 am

This is how I feel when talking about this game, and the rest of the season...

AGRO · **Posted:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:33 am

Sounds like some posters have been kidnapped by aliens and replaced by cleverly engineered doppelgangers, identical in every respect except for one important point.

:lol:

kingkerna · **Posted:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:45 am

I think we will win - Sheedy is great at engineering results to piss us off - who remembers the last round or was it the second last round in 1988? It's all a little hazy to me now but I can vaguely remember them losing to Melbourne which made things bad for us. Or how about in 1989 when he did anything he could to avoid playing Geelong - yeah I can't recall the exact details but they have lost games under him which benefited them.

nytdog · **Posted:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:54 am

AGRO wrote:

Sounds like some posters have been kidnapped by aliens and replaced by cleverly engineered doppelgangers, identical in every respect except for one important point.

:lol:

Just in case you're memory is fading, here's a quote from my POW post in June...

Quote:

If we are near the end of the season and are stuck on 4 wins, then I think it would do more benefit for the club than harm to put an inexperienced (unlikely to win) team on the park. I have said that throughout the entire thread. The difference here is, playing to lose from as early as round 4 in the season may be more harmful to the club than good. Throwing a season of AFL football for a pick is manipulating and cheating the system. Playing a young inexperienced team late in the season where there is no chance of making finals is common practice and desireable as it gives the youngsters more games and sees where they're at in their development which also helps in list management. It rests the older players to inable them to avoid injury and play on in the future (resting Fev when he had a groin injury a few years back comes to mind ). It also enables supporters to get a taste for the future and one or two loss doesn't destroy the club. If we were on 5-7 wins by Round 21 I would still like to see the club play more of the youngsters and give guys like Lappo and Kouta a rest so they can go on next year. To me that is not tanking, it is smart player and list management. If Hartlett has played only a couple of senior games by round 20 I'd be pissed and want to see him in the team if we're out of finals contention even if he wasn't a walk up for our best 22. To be honest, I'd like to see him in the team now.

There's a massive difference between playing to lose early/mid season and playing youngsters late in the year when we're out of finals contention.

Mrs Caz · **Posted:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:50 am

Posters are reminded yet again to keep to the topic and refrain from personal digs at each other.

AGRO · **Posted:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:57 am

AGRO wrote:

Sounds like some posters have been kidnapped by aliens and replaced by cleverly engineered doppelgangers, identical in every respect except for one important point.

:lol:

Mrs Caz · **Posted:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:01 am

Careful AGRO, you will start to wear out our emoticons soon.

uncle john · **Posted:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:43 pm

camelboy wrote:

This is how I feel when talking about this game, and the rest of the season...

You're not alone!!

I might have to look into a medically induced 2 week coma!!

There is no way I'm gonna go next week!! The frigg'n Bummers can't lose. Win, lose or draw they'll still feel like winners ......... the pricks!!

Nick · **Joined:** Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:52 pm **Posts:** 1857

kingkerna wrote:

I think we will win - Sheedy is great at engineering results to piss us off - who remembers the last round or was it the second last round in 1988? It's all a little hazy to me now but I can vaguely remember them losing to Melbourne which made things bad for us. Or how about in 1989 when he did anything he could to avoid playing Geelong - yeah I can't recall the exact details but they have lost games under him which benefited them.

...or losing to Richmond in the last round of 2001 season to make sure we don't finish 4th and play them in week 1 of the finals having beaten them twice that year, only to come out and reverse the result and belt Richmond by 70 odd points in their first final.

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