To anyone using the "logic" of trading Fev because he's turning 27 in January, Alistair Lynch played in 3 Brisbane Premierships at full forward when was 33, 34 and 35.

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When has that ever happened goltzy the club is the one that makes the decisions contract or not players can always be convinced. Tarrant didnt want to go anywhere last year and had a year left of his contract but still left doesn't Tarrants have the same agent as Fev

Lynchy spent his prime years in bed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. His body wasn't beaten and battered.

The way Fevola limps around every game, his body won't hold up. There are two more good years in Fev so I see no point in keeping him when we can trade for a superstar.

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I'm sure Lance is reasonable value when fit but how often is he fit?
Sure he's occasionally turned up in reasonable condition but when did Lance last turn up trim and terrific and retain the discipline to stay that way for the season?

To my knowledge he hasnt.

If you want to keep him, by all means go for it but lets not mention Lance and leadership in the same sentence.
Leaders dont need to be threatened with banishment to get themselves in half decent shape.
Credit to Swann, Icke and co. for having the guts to set some decent standards instead of swallowing the "smart footballer" crap that gets peddled.
Smart footballers dont turn up overweight and lazy every second year and real leaders wouldnt set such pathetic standards for the kids to follow.

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I never live on coulda, shoulda , woulda attitudes. No point regreting.

The thing is you trade richo or dont, has its pros n cons. It is hard to find key forwards in the league. I would never trade Richo, how many 6-6 tall running forwards are there in the league that can take a high mark n kick goals.

Yeah you can trade a good player, but you may trade him for another good player and that player breaks a leg, or does a knee and you got no return on your investment

Hence Fev - You have virtually got a coleman medalist for the next 3 years, but if u trade him and that doesnt work out, then you are left with a crap player or injured player

I think its pretty funny talking about trading a player that is 5 goals off winning the coleman medal at the moment

How about we forget about trading Fevola and think about building a team around him

With Fev in the team we got a good forwardline.

We need to fix up the backline and midfield

Concentrate on those things, rather then trading your best player at the club to set back the club 3 years unless you get a Pav, Revolt, JB out of the trade.
You trade a key forward with a keyforward right?

Otherwise who will kick the goals.

Great to get a judd, del santo like player for Fev, but who do they kick it to in the forwardline?

Josh Kennedy? Wiggins? Fisher? Waite? None of those players can consistently kick goals with the best backman on them in the league and Fev takes a double team every game cos thats how good he is.

I know you guys are smarter then wanting to trade one of the best forwards in the league. I hope i'm right

MORE SANITY!!!!

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Goltz I hope we have more to hope for then a coleman medal in the future. Richmond keeping Richo ensured them years of mediocrity with a large chunk of their salary cap going on a player that was hot and cold. I would rather we share our goals around then have one player kicking a large percentage of them.

In a perfect world we would keep him and get a good player to bring into the team.

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I've heard it all now, trade a superstar for a superstar

And who you going to trade Fev for this year?

Lynchy in bed with chronic fatigue n bodied not battered comment was gold. If anything chronic fatigue would of knocked the crap out of his body and made it harder to comeback. So to say his body wasn't knocked around is a bit of a understatement.

I guess Robert harvey got rest in those two years he was injury plagued and craig bradley playing to nearly 40 and michael tuck playing till he was 40 odd.

The good news is we're in the drivers seat in relation to Fev's future. If there is an above the $ trade offered this year we take it.

Worst case scenario is he wants out at the end of 2008, so we either trade again for a good price, or he goes in the PSD to the bottom side.

I'm tippin he won't want to become the comp's next Everett and head to the bottom of the ladder again. He'll either stay a Blue or we'll get a very good player/pick for him.

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That logic has landed us two spoons and a probable 15th. You see, the problem has been building around one individual who is selfish. There was a documentary on fox sports last night on the team behind the team, worth watching. Spoke about team chemistry and how important it is.

And including Kennedy in the argument is a little naive, the kid is only 19. Can you remember what Fev was like at 19? I can, and apart from kicking a bag in the millenium game against D graders, he had done nothing. And has Fev consistently kicked goals against the best backman? Let's see his stats vs. Rutten and Glass.

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I would trade Fev if it meant getting Judd to the Blues. Judd is a Superstar not Fev.

Harvey, Tuck, Bradley - these players are not crash and bash players. They are a ball carriers/outside players.

These sort of comments come from people who obviously have not played the game.

Players like Dermie & Hocking were players who through themselves around, crashed blokes, crashed packs etc, they were finished by 29. Fev is limping during every game, I tell you now he will be gone by 29.

I still stand by my Lynchy comment. His body was preserved. No hamstring injuries, no knee injuries, no soft tissue injuries, no dislocated joints - his body was wrapped up in cotton wool.

How good was Carey at 29? He was a lot better at 26.

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Exactly right,why trade Fev to IMPROVE another team.

How can we gaurantee that we will improve by trading him?

He's had a "BAD" year, but will still probably win the Coleman.

A bit of commonsense people!

We've only had 2 decent fullforwards in our illustrious history, let's savour an obvious talent in our lean years.

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I love the StKilda traded Hall and Spida argument.....

and they were better off!!!!

Better off how???
They dont have a ruckman .,,,
havent won a flag.....


Im sure if you look through history you can find sides that traded away players and ended up wollowing at the foot.. while the player went on to win a premiership or two....


Its qbit like Van Danikens 'Chariots of the Gods'.. you can show anything if you go that angle.
Common sense should prevail.... alot of blokes outside of the square historically have contributed to premiership wins!!!...

Of course if a super duper offer came u should look at it..

But not a champion FF for a couple of hit n miss picks....

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I guess it comes down to if you rate Fev a champion FF or not then Synbad. I don't. I'd rate him a very good FF, he still has the potential to be a champion, but it's looking less and less like he will ever completely fulfill his potential.

Yes he's won a Coleman, and will probably win another couple. But in the modern game a forward has more duties than just kicking goals, as important as they are.

It's not a question of yes definitely trade Fev for whatever we can get, or no never trade him. All this talk of draft picks being too risky is kind of silly. There are risks with keeping Fev too. In the end I hope those in charge weigh up what we're offered, pros cons and risks against keeping fev (again with pros cons and risks). Whichever offers the best package should be the way we go.

You remember shit. Fev actually kicked 26.29 from 14 games (most of them starting on the bench) when he was 19. That tally would currently have him sitting 2nd on our goal kicking list as far as 2007 goes & if we had a 19 year old that was doing that now we'd be hailing him our saviour.

Why dont YOU check his stats v Glass and Rutten. Could of sworn he has kicked 8 in a pre season final on Glass & also had games where he's kicked between 4 and 6 goals on him. From memory he's only played on Rutten 2 or 3 times and I remember at least one bag of 4. One of the D graders you refer to in the millenium game by the way was Mal Michael. You remember what he achieved a couple of years after that don't you?

Lance is fronting up at CHB at Cramer St this week against Frankston

Can't imagine why there would be any doubt that that would be the case this week.

After a fair lay-off, he only played a portion of last weeks game, finishing on the bench with some ice on his knee.

He should get more game time this week, where we will get a better indication of how he is travelling.

All the indications are that he is finished just get a tape of his performances from Round 1 this season to Round 12.
The club should be focusing their energies into kids rather then trying to nurse back the undisciplined Whitnall.