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Let's say two in the Top 10, 3 & 9. Would you do it?


So Melbourne are going to get 3 and theyre going trade a player to get pick nine... can you tell me who that player might be???... and do you think Melbourne are in a position to trade off those picks for Fev?

See???... youre talking unrealistic stuff...

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Let's say two in the Top 10, 3 & 9. Would you do it?


So Melbourne are going to get 3 and theyre going trade a player to get pick nine... can you tell me who that player might be???... and do you think Melbourne are in a position to trade off those picks for Fev?

See???... youre talking unrealistic stuff...


This is a hypothetical example. Maybe Melbourne will bid, I put 3 & 9 as a mid point to your two propositions, but let me simplify it for you. What if Bulldogs had pick 9 and traded to pick 3 that Melbourne had (maybe Farren Ray & Mitch Hahn to Melbourne). Then bulldogs make a play for Fev with their own pick and on-trade 3?

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Farren Ray and pick nine by the Dogs might net them pick 3.. but they still need to find another top 10 pick to bring your proposal to the table.... maybe Yze????... or Green???... or Bruce???

Wont happen!!!
What the draft over the last few years has cemented into clubsminds is you can only rebuild via the draft... and noone is going to chop early picks away willy nilly.

And certainly not 2 draft picks in the top 10 unless its an absolute freak.

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You complicate the issue. All I wanted was a yes or no to a situation if it were to occur.

By the way, I hear Richmond may want to trade Tambling.

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i reckon Tambling would go at least as well as Rodan if he was traded away from Richmond....
which isnt too bad...
Im not complicating anything.. i just want abit of reality...personally i think hypothesising the unrealistic is
If you can get me two top ten picks .. one of which is a top 4.. id think about it...

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WOULD YOU DO THE TRADE? It's in the final minute of trade week and you make the final call. Picks 3 & 9 for Fev?

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WOULD YOU DO THE TRADE? It's in the final minute of trade week and you make the final call. Picks 3 & 9 for Fev?


Nope ... we already have pick 3 :wink:


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WOULD YOU DO THE TRADE? It's in the final minute of trade week and you make the final call. Picks 3 & 9 for Fev?


Nope ... we already have pick 3 :wink:


For you showbag, we have 2 & 9 :)

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Fevs legs will not get him past 29. He is only good when he leaps off the ground to take a contested mark and as you get older you lose the spring you once had. He is no G-Train and will not muscle others out of a contest.

Fev is at his peak now and will not get better. Trade him and get something while we can.

Whitnall should go. We have plenty of kids coming through and they need to be developed. We will at least get a second rounder for him. During trade period things just go silly and players become over-rated, so it should work in our favour.


Hahahahaha 2nd rounder for Whitnall? Hahahahaha.

No comment re: Fev being washed up by 29. Baseless stuff really.


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WOULD YOU DO THE TRADE? It's in the final minute of trade week and you make the final call. Picks 3 & 9 for Fev?


Nope ... we already have pick 3 :wink:


For you showbag, we have 2 & 9 :)


No we dont.... :wink:

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Nope - I wouldnt trade Fev for picks 3 and 9. Firstly, you are trading away a known goal-kicker and match-winner (who brings a lot more to the club than footballing ability in terms of memberships etc) for two unknown players who are picked based on potential.

Secondly, even if these players turn out to be good, they wont reach their potential for another few years. Say we spend another few years down on the bottom waiting for these kids to come good, how is this going to affect our playing list and our supporters?

Membership numbers will decrease because of a continued lack of success and more importantly, key players may opt to be traded or leave the club due to this lack of success.

You can't always keep building for the future - at some point, you have to say that you think you are on the verge of something. I think our list is almost there - add a ruckman (Aisake/Cloke or Kreuzer/another draft choice), bring Nick Stevens back in, the continued development of Gibbs, Murphy, Grigg, Russell, Kennedy, Hartlett, Bower, Jamison, Blackwell, Simpson, Carazzo and you have a recipe for success.

People keep talking about why we need to trade Fev away now while his value as high and because he wont be around when we our pushing for finals, which is rubbish. We can push for finals next year - trading him for potential talent only further delays our ascension and puts it in greater doubt in my eyes.


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Fevs legs will not get him past 29. He is only good when he leaps off the ground to take a contested mark and as you get older you lose the spring you once had. He is no G-Train and will not muscle others out of a contest.

Fev is at his peak now and will not get better. Trade him and get something while we can.

Whitnall should go. We have plenty of kids coming through and they need to be developed. We will at least get a second rounder for him. During trade period things just go silly and players become over-rated, so it should work in our favour.



Hope other clubs think you like in regards to Whitnalls trade value


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Ah TTD, you've said it again.
Couldn't agree more.


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Latest rumour on the radio is Will Minson plus Sam Power for Fevola. Apparently we really need another second rate ruckman.


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Look both WC and the Bullies have enquired in Fevola.. but lets get serious here.
Pick nine and someone like Hahn dont translatre into a Fevola..
Were already monopolising the first couple of picks... so more early ones mean nothing unless you can use them to pick up a Judd...

And Judd most likely wont leave....
And picks nine and a Micth Hahn or a Giansiracusa or a a wide outside player from the Bullants should not translate into a Fevola!

Thats disaster material!

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Fevs legs will not get him past 29. He is only good when he leaps off the ground to take a contested mark and as you get older you lose the spring you once had. He is no G-Train and will not muscle others out of a contest.

Fev is at his peak now and will not get better. Trade him and get something while we can.

Whitnall should go. We have plenty of kids coming through and they need to be developed. We will at least get a second rounder for him. During trade period things just go silly and players become over-rated, so it should work in our favour.



Hope other clubs think you like in regards to Whitnalls trade value


Tarrant, Hay, Jolly & Grandpa Everitt all went for first rounders so this is where my opinion is based.

Not to mention McGuane, McKernhan, Devenport, Justin Charles etc

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I would trade Fev in a heartbeat. Yes I acknowledge the guy is a gun but he is no good for the TEAM, he's proved this time and time again. Bit like Peter Everitt, great player but. A leapord doesn't change his spots, as Tarrant has proved this year. The fact he is seen as the face of the club is an embarrassment, particularly his performances on TFS. I bet Swann sees it this way and he has already made up his mind, irrespective of what Fev does in the next few weeks.

We as a club need to make these tough calls - along with telling Lance enough is enough. We would easily get the equivalent of two Top 10 picks (for example might be pick and player), but anything we get for him is a bonus. We will be a much better TEAM, not self centred, egotistical individuals. It's a bit of short term pain for long term pain. We have had enough of fence sitting and taking no action. And yes I would get rid of Scotland too, soooo overrated.

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Clayman wrote:
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Fevs legs will not get him past 29. He is only good when he leaps off the ground to take a contested mark and as you get older you lose the spring you once had. He is no G-Train and will not muscle others out of a contest.

Fev is at his peak now and will not get better. Trade him and get something while we can.

Whitnall should go. We have plenty of kids coming through and they need to be developed. We will at least get a second rounder for him. During trade period things just go silly and players become over-rated, so it should work in our favour.



Hope other clubs think you like in regards to Whitnalls trade value


Tarrant, Hay, Jolly & Grandpa Everitt all went for first rounders so this is where my opinion is based.

Not to mention McGuane, McKernhan, Devenport, Justin Charles etc


Jolly wasn't a first rounder trade neither was Everitt

neither were any of these guys McGuane, McKernhan, Devenport, Justin Charles


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Jolly wasn't a first rounder trade neither was Everitt


I think Jolly was traded for Pick 15, which was Sydney's first in whatever year it was (2005?)

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popeye wrote:
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Jolly wasn't a first rounder trade neither was Everitt


I think Jolly was traded for Pick 15, which was Sydney's first in whatever year it was (2005?)


Yeah at least he got a couple right the rest are way off


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