You were right all along blueman, your word is as good as gold now.

Now, about the world line for the next set of tattlotto numbers.........?

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Personally I am worried about Ratten coaching us and would prefer someone from outside the club.

Kernahan getting his way and appointing his mate again makes me ill and I do not have a good feel about this.

Happy with Rattens first up performance but can it be sustained. I reckon all of you are getting too romantic about him, and are not thinking with your heads. I loved Ratten as a player, and yes he coached 1 good game but it does not make me want to change my mind yet as I am too scared to get sucked in.

I feel Ratten will not make the hard calls on senior players he is close to and Kernahan, Ratten, Gleeson are a little boys club. This is what scares me.

I would like to hear an opinion from someone like SYNBAD who I really respect and tells it like it is and does not have romantic view.............. Still I have my own mind and this is what I am worried about.......

We are going to go the safe option again aren't we ?????? I am sick of it, we need to take some chances. Shattered about Voss. Maybe go for Mckenna. Sick of Kernahan making these decisions. If Swann made it on his own, I would feel more comfortable.

If blueman's right, then he's already given us the blueprint for future prosperity.

1. Invest in companies that stand to benefit from a protracted global conflict.

2. Convert your car to run on biodiesel.

3. Sell your house now to avoid the inevitable downturn caused by recession, and invest in said armament companies. Also, buy gold and silver and invest in oil futures.

Jamison and Grigg in, Kouta and Wiggins out.

Anyone got any problems with that?

Ratts is going well so far.

Fev, I hear you and I share similar concerns. However these concerns are tempered by my faith/belief that Swann and Icke have real decision making power at the club now, and won't allow Sticks to back one of his mates in for old times' sake (and he would do it). Swann in particular knows what role a coach needs to play in a successful club, and I can't see him just allowing Sticks to run out to the media saying Ratts is the coach because he's a good Carlton bloke like he did last week.

Tattslotto numbers dont have an aura like humans do. I work by getting a feel for people and their sense of destiny.

Its a skill that is learnt, and I am only a learner.

Sometimes that can be a seed of destiny inside someone that that person is only remotely aware of. Its like they know, but they dont know.

This is what I feel when I see Brett Ratten. Its just the way things are.

If by some twist, he doesnt end up at Carlton, he will express that potential, but it will turn out differently, like say an exciting semi finals win at Melb, but followed by a preliminary finals loss.

Its still a coaching highlight, but not quite what it might have been if he has chosen a club with say, a different culture..

Regarding the war - it is definately avoidable - but sadly, people arent making the correct choices in order to avoid it.

Regarding our economy - we need to understand that we live on prosperity which comes from oil, the supply of which is soon to become politicised by extremists in ways that will cause our ecomony to fail. - with foresight, this is also indeed avoidable, but narcisism, greed and short sightedness are blinding us and tragically, blinding our politicians too.

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Sounds good to me.....OMG....some people are just so unbelievably negative.

Pagan's shit.....oh.....Voss is uncommitted......oh.....Ratten can't be any good ....he used to play with Kernahan......GIVE ME A BREAK !!!!!

Why is he a fool? Nothing wrong with second thoughts. Better that than go on and coach because one felt "committed" and stuff up his team and himself. I woulsd say smart. Tell me how many people on the forum haven't had second thoughts and changed their mind and at some stage of their lifetime.

Its not that Warby, don't get me wrong. Ratten may end up being the best thing to happen to us.

I am just worried about kernahan and gleeson being involved. They have a proven record of trying to appoint mates. Cannot blame me for feeling like this.

If he does get chosen, I will get behind him 100% for sure..........

I still prefer another person from another club to give us a fresh perspective though.

I agree with Fevola.

Would love some fresh perspective rather than another Carlton "mate".

But if Ratten really is the best option then so be it.

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Warby, I hope I didn't come across as being negative about Ratten. If he's the best man for the job and is appointed, I'm happy with that. I am, however, negative about the process that would be employed to select him if Sticks were in charge of it, which is to say there would be none.

Peter Sumich has the same manager as Judd

lets do some kind of deal with paul connors and get those two over the line

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Is Danny Frawley still available?

Jim, GWS's point wasn't that Voss had second thoughts. It's that he did it publicly. He should have worked through all the issues and second thoughts before he made any public announcement on whether or not he was interested in coaching next year.

halle-bloody-lujah. finally a coach giving the kids a go - even if it is a week after he said he would!!!

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I just want Brett Ratten to be made coach so we can get over the 'new coach' saga and on to the next saga, which will be that of the changes that are coming to our list for 2008.

I do want to see that very young Carlton team, that I was given a future glimpse of during one troubled night all those years ago (2001).

Each step we take is a step closer to a glorious fairytale ending, but an glorious as it will be, this will be an ending that actually turns out to be a new beginning.

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Two things I mentioned on monday in another thread.
1) gut feel that voss will coach nobody in '08 and remain in the media
2) gut feel that chris bond may be the diamond in the rough

For mine, it's out of ratts or bond. I have a bad feeling about mckenna.

PS. the above is only based on my intuition. anyone else out there think that bond may be the man?????

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Chris bond has always had a good name out there. I'm not sure if he stuffed up his interview with the 'aints, if IRC, he was also a strong consideration for the tigers and doggies job. Is he one of those "always a bridesmaid never a bride?". Great but not good enough ?

Longmire has been bandied around, but I doubt we would go for him .... too much Pagan...

I wonder why Harvey hasn't been mentioned for us. Been said that he is a good coach. Is he a signed sealed delivered to Freo or not a fit for us?

The other one mooted long ago was Paul Hudson. He had huge wraps on him. If not senior coach, maybe Carlton Reserves ?

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A proven record?

Once...they tried to appoint Mitchell, as an alternative to the guy you've been calling to have sacked over the last month.

Mitchell was also going to coach on the same wage he was being paid as an assistant, there weren't many better options sticking their hand up on that basis.

If you're still worried that Kernahan is going to be making a decision on the spur of the moment you don't have much faith in Pratt, Swann or the rest of the new board.

If Ratten is appointed it won't be because he's a mate of Kernahan.

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couldn't agree more.

let's just hope if Ratts gets the job that he is the only current assistant to survive with the rest to be cleared out.

unfortunately from what i hear Mitchel most likely to stay on.

please please please gets some talent on board as coaching members.