Seanpb Fev is selfish. Same with Scotland. He and Scotland are negative influences on the playing group. He did not get one vote when the leadership group voted on who wold captain first in Whitnall's absence. Note Scotland didn't end up getting his turn.
It's all about Fev, why go the Footy Show when he was suspended by the club? He never talks team, give teammates a spray when they don't pass to him. He was never captain of the team, and his teammates certainly don't want him captain. Sure he is a gun player, but so was Lockett at St.Kilda.

Trade Fev, get rid of Scotland. Would move these guys on before Lance and Skinny.

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Its extraordinary how most people on here think that we should retain him because he has a great footy brain.
Lets forget about how undiscipline he is and the fact that he was suspended by the club because he couldn’t get his weight right.

I seeeee..............

so it's not that Lance is fat or stuff............it's his BRAIN.....
it's too BIG..........!


kindest regards tommi

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So your ok with the idea that we keep Lance even though he rocks up to each pre-season year in year out looking like a disgrace???
How is he any different in regards to leadership that Scotland and Fev both provide???

We dont need Whitnall we appreciate his effort but its time to move on

I think Lappin needs to be told they're gonna get rid of him and see if his form improves because in my opinion he still has a season or 2 left i hope

I hope Fevola doesnt get traded because now DP is gone i have a feeling his form will come back to its fullest again and it would be a shame if he went on to another club and kicked 10 goals every week

To sum it all up

- Axe Whitnall
- Put Lappin on heavy trial
- Keep Fevola ( unreplacable )

My opinion anyway..

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Well said that man. Well said.

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Don't forget to axe Ackland and Saddo BEFORE we axe Red or Skinny!

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QFT - you always crack me up Tommi - love your observations.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

I'm not saying that at all. Personally I would move on all 4 players, but in terms of the order I would do it, Fev & Scotland would be where I would start. I think Lance not presenting himself in acceptable condition is and has been a disgrace, especially as a captain of a young team. Not to mention he takes young players out pre-season (with Scotland) and 'forgets' to put on his watch.

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Being a newbie to this sort of thing, how reliable is this joker? I really don't think A43K was shown the door, and doubt that M12L will be, but really hope L8W and B25F will be (more the former than the latter .. but who knows?)

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[Sam Jacobs] looks like a 7' Lance Whitnall, and [Mitch Robinson] looks like a 4' Lance Whitnall
(The SEN team during the Carlton v Cats 2009 pre-season match)

My impression from listening to the press conference is that he wanted to play out the season but with Ratten wanting to blood new players, was told it would be better to give it away.
Thats been shown the door to some extent


Whats a sign that a player is nearing the end
When thet start becoming very inconsistent. And thats Lappin because some weeks, his body simply doesnt recover enough


So I'm not joking

If I were the FD, I'd rate Whitnall on how he rocks up to whichever game he's playing this weekend and if he came up well, test him out again, see how he works within the playing group, then if it all comes up pretty rosy, seek to restructure his contract with special criterion in mind. Not a likely scenario, but there's nothing to lose.

And how about we give the Fev five minutes without the golden child treatment to see if he responds well. I think last week was a good start.

Gone are the days where it's the emotions of the few drawing out a my way or the highway approach through their influence. Fev's not so damaged that another club won't pick him up and run with him, regardless of what a few power brokers might utter. The fact that some of you behave like that logic still applies staggers me.

We trade him and barring injury, we will get burned.

Matty looks pretty spent, so I don't think he'll mind if we suggest his time is at an end. Should be a 200 gamer for Carlton when all's said and done and that's a fine achievement.

EDIT: Don't worry Greg, I'm sure we'll all come to piss on your ashes too. Waste of paper.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

That whole article was speculative and based on what would happen when Voss becomes coach - which has turned out to be, how you say, bullsh*t.

So, Kouta has gone, but I don't think he was "shown the door".

Lappin will probably retire at the end of the year, after playing his 200th game for the Blues.

Whitnall may well be gone as well.

Fev...who knows? Seriously, with Icke, Swann, Pratt and Co., they may well trade him without a second thought, or they may negotiate with him and love to keep him. I don't know.

Scotland...hmm...not always a fan. That said, without him, this season would have been worse, without Stevens...

I would absolutely get rid of them all. Get what you can for Fev and Scotland, and just cut the other two.

Sorry keogh, I was referring to the "journalist" as a joker, not you ... It's sad that A43K was handled this way, but I really think it is past time to show B25F the door .. his attitude is woeful, the players don't want him around with that attitude (as shown by the leaving of the ground in Sydney the other week) and if there was ever a lack of consistency it is Fev. (see my rant on the relevant thread)

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[Sam Jacobs] looks like a 7' Lance Whitnall, and [Mitch Robinson] looks like a 4' Lance Whitnall
(The SEN team during the Carlton v Cats 2009 pre-season match)

Sorry. I'm a bit over sensitive

Agree on Fev

His standing on his own after we were thumped by the lions was the last straw for me

wE HAVE SEEN HOW THE pIES HAVE PROGRESSED WITHOUT THAT PEANUT tARRANT AND HOW THE dOCKERS HAVE GONE DOWNHILL
nOW iTS fEVS TURN.

Just thought I have the caps lock on for something different.

You underestimate The Medhurst factor at Collingwood.





































Seriously though and not directed at anyone specific. Suggesting a Fev trade will happen is like suggesting Delideo Foley and Schwartz are coming to Carlton... Not going to happen.
Lance if we are serious about moving forward he might standing in the doorway.
As for Skinny why not finish now. What more could he get out football at this level ?

Anyway just another opinion....

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mate, i would change your source.

and i wouldn't let brittain within a bulls roar of the place. my mail from a former premiership player is that he was foul mouthed disgustingly abusive towards the players who had the personality of a gnat

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I have heard exactly the same thing, Blue Beatle, although not from a player. With a list of our average age next year (with next to no senior leadership to provide suppport to the kids), I somehow don't think having a re-tread screaming at the kids that they are a bunch of ******* ***** on a regular basis is really what we need.

many happy returns BS.

and to all horses too

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