Wouldnt call it breaking news......Lappin and Lance retiring or exiting the club isnt exactly a shock, McLaren delisted..wow..shock/ horror....
Agree with Synbad....I think Fev will be shopped around and if they get a decent deal then he will go but they wont be giving him away.
You would expect Voss and his crew Frawley, Brittain, whoeva to wield the axe and have their demands, employ his old Brisbane mates/officials etc....
I dont think Greg Denham had to do much research to come up with those theories.....

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
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- Conor Gillen

Without wanting to get into a keep Fev/ get rid of Fev debate, I hope that if the club actually concedes to the demands of a new coach to get rid of Brendan that they get a phenomenal trade.
Im a huge Fev fan and wouldn’t get rid of him in a million years. He has suffered with us the last 6 seasons and just when were on the cusp of tangible improvement he gets shown the door doesn’t sit right with me. He is a gun and will benefit from an improving midfield in years to come. The turnaround might not be that far away.

I am a bit concerned that (if actually true) a Voss or other prospective coach would make a call on shipping Fev along without actually having a proper sit down and chat and making an informed decision. And even if I would like Big Red to go, this would apply to him to. Denham has a habit of flogging off innuendo and rumour as fact so it might be all BS, but as a discussion point it raises some concerns

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C'mon Blueboys!

Your mate is looking pretty ordinary now...

what is with all this trade fev bullshit?

why?

if we trade fev ill be ropable.

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"In fairness it did seem in the early days of the draft teams would just pick a name totally at random out of a hat. I'm pretty sure we picked James Cook at #2 one year. The mediocre forward, not the explorer" - Me, 12/9/2011

Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

Hard to take any of that seriously now!

Your most UNRELIABLE source must be bad if your most RELIABLE one was so accurate with the Voss thing

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Lance certainly deserves a farewell game: Melbourne round 22. And why not give blokes like McLaren, Ackland, Teague a run, as a send off, for sentimental reasons.

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don't ask me, I'm just a lizard

I agree - why does everyone want Fev to leave. The aim of the game is to kick goals - we have one of the best exponents in the league and we are going to trade him away for a late first round pick. That is crazy!

It's pretty obvious, I would've thought.

Fev is talented, but he's also a destructive influence on the team ethic. Our onfield leadership blows goat, and the club is trying to build a TEAM. No-one disputes Fev's ability to kick goals, but the reasons they'd try and offload him have nothing to do with the stats sheet.

That, and it's always worth seeing what you can get for what you've got. There's no way the club would trade Fev for a single draft pick and a bag of spuds. We'd get quality in return. Nothing wrong with seeing what's out there.

weve got what a lot of other teams do not have: a quality full forward. why would we give away (i do realised we'd be handsomely remunerated for the deal, and id want absolutely nothing less than 2 top 10 picks...and in a draft with depth enough to almost guarentee value) someone of fevola's ilk? sure hes had issues. but he'll straighten up.. if last week was any guide we'd be nucking futs to get rid of him. when he fires up, when hes not as frustrated as he clearly has been, we come mighty close to winning....we usually do.

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"In fairness it did seem in the early days of the draft teams would just pick a name totally at random out of a hat. I'm pretty sure we picked James Cook at #2 one year. The mediocre forward, not the explorer" - Me, 12/9/2011

Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

but he picked Pagan coming to Carlton 3 months prior to the event!

Still, I've had a go at him about this one him or course

Apologies everyone..

At the rate we are getting rid of players our average age next year will be 12 and the team will need Mummy and Daddy to sign permission slips for them to play.

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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" -Winston Churchill

L.M 35-06

'sure he's had issues, but he'll straighten up'...

no he won't. what gives anyone even the vaguest inkling that, at the age of 26, Fev will somehow become a different person?

Fev's fev. And if you've already got a strong team that can assimilate a personality like his without disrupting things too much (like a Sydney could) then he's a huge asset.

But at a club like ours, yes he can kick 50 - 80 goals a year. But kicking goals isn't what this game's about: it's about winning games of football consistently with a strong team.

Ask yourself: if Fev, and players like Fev, stand in the way of our team developing a strong team ethic, then what value are the goals he kicked then? I remember those crappy St Kilda 'teams' of the 80's and 90's... always had a star player or three, never played for each other, never won a thing.

Fev's 'worth' 60 goals a year on average. How many goals a year is strong onfield leadership worth? I'll take a stab and say 110.

In fact the best chance of him fixing his attitude may well be to get traded. It might make him realise that talent alone does not make him indispensable.

i think saying fev plays for himself is a bit out of left field. sure he commits some selfish acts on the field, im not saying he doesnt...but so does every player. i certainly dont believe he plays for himself.

trading him could be a further blow for this team. before his little indiscretions last season he was captain of this team. i wanted him to be captain, so did heaps of others. id hate to see him 'turn it around' at another club that just so happens to be tearing us apart at the time.

how do you know hes a disruptive influence? all the guys at the club may very love having him around.

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"In fairness it did seem in the early days of the draft teams would just pick a name totally at random out of a hat. I'm pretty sure we picked James Cook at #2 one year. The mediocre forward, not the explorer" - Me, 12/9/2011

Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

Hehehe...gold.

This is the fear at the back of peoples' minds constantly when trades are talked. IMO, it stops trades being made which are good for both player and Club.

If Fev needs to go for the long-term good of Carlton, then so be it.

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While I don't know for sure that Fev's a disruptive influence (I'm not in the playing group after all), there are some things I do know:

1. The club wouldn't be seeking to trade him if he contributed to a strong team harmony. He'd be the perfect package if that were the case, and no-one would even be thinking of it. Where there's smoke, there's often fire.

2. Our onfield leadership is shithouse. Fev is a senior player and extremely influential, given his profile and performances. 1 + 1 usually = 2.

3. He's extremely petulant. Cracks the sads all the time. Surely people don't think this is somehow conducive to team harmony?

4. The playing group had the chance to vote Fev in as a stand-in captain earlier this year. They didn't choose him, despite the fact that he's clearly our most skillful player.

I think that Lance has deserved a FAREWELL game for about 4 years now....

I don't post much but I think you are spot on with your rational JohnM.

Individual ability and talent have to be secondary in our current developing team. Other qualities such as discipline, application, desire and leadership have to be harnessed to lead us onto a 17th flag.

If the Club decides Fev does not fit the mould then the Club has a responsibility to remove his influence from an impressionable group of young men.

Cheers

Mark