I only watched parts and listned on the radio to most but the most impressive thing for mine was hearing that Baker had just given a rough free-kick away to Murphy..........

I HATE THAT BAKER PRICK............

During Pagan's reign, we would have done nothing about that................and that's what i was expecting............but then a massive smile burst onto my face when i heard the commentator saying that Bower & a few others started roughing up Baker afterwards.

HIGHLIGHT OF THE DAY FOR MINE!

Sick of this 'walk-over' bullshit. For far to long Carlton has been seen as a team that can be pushed around & is to scared to push back.!!!!!!

TOP STUFF!

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Pretty honest assesment there mate........good post!

A couple of things................



I still think that Setanta has the potential to become a very good ruckman / rover and could form a brilliant partnership. But has anybody else noticed that both he and Ackland are jumping just a little to early (or, in Acklands case, not at all sometimes)? Maybe something for Gary to look at!



Thornton should perhaps have a look at his own game before dishing of verbals to other players!



Hmmmm, sadly, i think i aggree with you on this. I say sadly cause i was seiorusly hoping that Waite could become our new CHB and provide good defence and run out of the backline.

With that said, a forward line (provided that it is used and coached correctly) consisting of Waite, Fevola, Fisher & Kennedy could be leathal!



Glad somebody else noticed this...............cause it was the main thing i hated about Pagan......even moreso than his verbal crap in post-game interviews.



Yeah spot on...................and he wasn't a Priority Pick either.......just a rookie. That's what i call 'Drafting Well'. Both he and Jacobs were looked at as too slow and not up to AFL standard to be drafted in the NAB Draft so they went as Rookies......................... BOTH, will prove alot of people wrong.



I like this one the most

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Pro's - we played with passion and heart for a change.
- Collingwood got spanked meaning they must beat us this week.
- Essendon* won meaning they will still have hopes of finals by the time we play them in round 20.
- Melbournes percentage is now lower than ours meaning they can beat us in round 22 and still keep their PP and pick 3.

Con - i'm very concerned we will win one more game this season.

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I'll get shot down here...

but I reckon we missed Kennedy on Saturday. With the shorter kicking gameplan, and less propensity to bomb, I reckon that a hard-working CHF like Kennedy would have been the icing on the cake for us.

Other than that, pros were obviously:

Edwards - sensational
Betts - awfully good
Russell - did you see him back himself in the last half? He didn't look scared to just play his game. I have my fingers crossed that the departure of Denis may finally see us getting the best out of JR

Cons:

I'll stick with one... Scotland. Can the club move him on please? Even if it is just for Dr Sherrin and I?

Molly you may want to change Edwards to Jackson.

That's a fair call Molsey!

I keep hoping Edwards will get picked, then he does his ankle again. One day I'll be able to have Jake as a pro in the pros and cons list.

I'll try again... sensational game by Jackson!

Pro's.

A tick to Ratts for putting Murphy on to Montagna. It was an effective move in that Montagna was quietened but more importantly, it got that leech Baker away from Murph. Good to see some proactive decisions.

Jacko. I thought his defensive efforts on Harvey were excellent but his willingness to work the other way were just as commendable. Many times when we were held up and St Kilda flooded back, Jacko was the player who worked hard to run to space and give us an option.

Fish. The most underated player getting around. He's the one player who works hard every week to help his mates. He chases, assists, tackles and most importantly, sacrifices his own game to create space or options to benefit the team.
People talk about Lance being a smart player. Fish is his equal for footy smarts but has the workrate and selflessness to go with it.

Simmo. Has become a real hard nut. This guy is becoming an elite player at a rapid rate. Some of his team mates could learn a lesson from him about commitment and keeping his eyes on the ball. An excellent choice as captain.

Pro's.
The lack of a player with the smarts to effectively be our loose man.
Scotto has the offensive skills but not the height or defensive skills.
Saddo, as much as I'd love to see him succeed, had a poor first 3 quarters. His positioning and decision making as a loose man was terrible. His teammates wore the grass down continually walking over to pat him on the back and say "bad luck".
The loose man needs to move the ball quickly when he intercepts the ball as usually players will be out of position and umanned. Too often Saddo went sideways or handballed to players under the pump.

It actually reinforces the fact that we lack players with the nous to play a creative role.
These roles are'nt magically bestowed upon players. We need to develop and train players to know their position and make good decisions.
Unfortunately, its going to take time to make up the lost ground.

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someone at carlton should give a tape of Simpson efforts to Jordan Russell to show him what hard work at the contest and hard running is all about!!
Skills that Jordon unfortunately doesn't possess

Yes he is surely going to be a player who will benefit from Pagan's departure.

I thought he did ok, there were times when he bombed without purpose but it's no secret that Pagan instructed players to do this, He'll learn to become more relaxed and use his own judgement.

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Seems to me that JR is clearly a player who thrives on positive reinforcement rather than negative. At the end of last year, all he wanted was a bit of love from the club - once it was shown the club was desperate for him to stay, he was happy. It would be fair to say Denis is NOT the sort of coach to allow JR to back himself and make a few mistakes through initiative rather than fear.

I'm prepared to give JR a solid go without looking over his shoulder. His last quarter was really encouraging, because he was looking to take the game on rather than sitting back and reactiing, which he has been prone to do. The lad has a future yet, IMHO.

Pros for me:

Setanta: Love the passion in this guy.

Simmo: During his 1st 2 years I had my doubts, but he has come along nicely. One of the few players to consistently run to create.

Jacko: nice to see him get good game time. Another 2 years in the gym won't go astray!

Fev: more efforts like that please! His chase, tackle, free kick, snatch the ball off the ground and goal was sensational.

Cons for me:

Still too much gametime spent jogging along beside our opponents. RUN YOU LAZY BUGGERS! RUN!

Kicking to teammates. Either we think a player is 6ft 5 or 3ft 2. Practice Practice Practice please!

Cold pies and chips......bleh!

I lost my membership ticket.

Pros
We played with confidence - Jacko was exceptionally good because he had the faith of Ratts sitting in the box.

Cannot underestimate the importance of Ratts to how some of the kids played. Bower did a somewaht bizarre handball in the second qtr which didn't reach his team-mate, I think and had DP been there, PB would have been dragged but Ratts persisted with him and he he backed himself in the 3rd to kick that goal.

Simmo walking off with the players at half time was wasted but keep talking to the players as they walked off, kept their spirits and fight up and just kept talking non stop while trying to suck in gulps of air - Leadership!

I was extremely pleased with Fisher as this guy has hands like superglue. Am always confident that he will hold onto the mark 9 out of 10 times.

Eddie in the midfield was a revelation and Murphy playing a tagging role was also an eye opener.

Cons
Saddington
The Hack - only 5 more weeks of this crap

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Fevola and Betts magically came good after Pagan left

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