"Voss key to coach race" Caro 28/7/07

nightcrawler · **Joined:** Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:48 am **Posts:** 2891

JohnM wrote:

Remember Robert Shaw? One of the best assistant coaches of the last 20 years... failed when he tried the senior gig. Very different jobs.

One of the recent newspaper stories mentioned Shaw is being courted by a Melbourne based club. Wonder if we could be looking at him as an assistant?

verbs · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:34 pm

nightcrawler wrote:

JohnM wrote:

Remember Robert Shaw? One of the best assistant coaches of the last 20 years... failed when he tried the senior gig. Very different jobs.

One of the recent newspaper stories mentioned Shaw is being courted by a Melbourne based club. Wonder if we could be looking at him as an assistant?

Robert Shaw is a very astute football brain. He could be anyting as a senior coach if the cards fell into place.

GWS · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:43 pm

verbs wrote:

Robert Shaw is a very astute football brain. He could be anyting as a senior coach if the cards fell into place.

Um - he was a senior coach...

Rhys26 · **Joined:** Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:12 am **Posts:** 1730

GWS wrote:

verbs wrote:

Robert Shaw is a very astute football brain. He could be anyting as a senior coach if the cards fell into place.

Um - he was a senior coach...

And that was one of his better posts!!!

verbs · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:48 pm

GWS wrote:

verbs wrote:

Robert Shaw is a very astute football brain. He could be anyting as a senior coach if the cards fell into place.

Um - he was a senior coach...

But the cards didn't fall into place when he was.

They did at North for Pagan, but not at Carlton. You could be the most brilliant mind in the universe, but you're never going to win a premiership if your players are crap.

I have read quite a few things over the past five years which have told me Shaw is head and shoulders above many of the current senior coaches going around. His insight into the caper is quite exceptional.

GWS · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:51 pm

verbs wrote:

GWS wrote:

verbs wrote:

Robert Shaw is a very astute football brain. He could be anyting as a senior coach if the cards fell into place.

Um - he was a senior coach...

But the cards didn't fall into place when he was.

They did at North for Pagan, but not at Carlton. You could be the most brilliant mind in the universe, but you're never going to win a premiership if your players are crap.

I have read quite a few things over the past five years which have told me Shaw is head and shoulders above many of the current senior coaches going around. His insight into the caper is quite exceptional.

After Fitzroy he had two years at Adelaide with a state list at his disposal and did FA.

Malcolm Blight took over and immediately won two flags.

Or was that all Shaw's great preparatory work.

Adelaide

1995: 11th
1996: 12th
1997: 1st
1998 1st

verbs · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:51 pm

Rhys26 wrote:

GWS wrote:

verbs wrote:

Robert Shaw is a very astute football brain. He could be anyting as a senior coach if the cards fell into place.

Um - he was a senior coach...

And that was one of his better posts!!!

Rhys26, 95% of your posts are having a go at other posters. It's quite psychotic of you. Some may have thought David was psychotic (hence your weird and loony approach to posting here), but he is actually a well-adjusted person, unlike the...

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nightcrawler · **Joined:** Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:48 am **Posts:** 2891

verbs wrote:

I have read quite a few things over the past five years which have told me Shaw is head and shoulders above many of the current senior coaches going around. His insight into the caper is quite exceptional.

Well in that case we should get him to mentor Voss :lol:

verbs · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:52 pm

GWS wrote:

verbs wrote:

GWS wrote:

verbs wrote:

Robert Shaw is a very astute football brain. He could be anyting as a senior coach if the cards fell into place.

Um - he was a senior coach...

But the cards didn't fall into place when he was.

They did at North for Pagan, but not at Carlton. You could be the most brilliant mind in the universe, but you're never going to win a premiership if your players are crap.

I have read quite a few things over the past five years which have told me Shaw is head and shoulders above many of the current senior coaches going around. His insight into the caper is quite exceptional.

After Fitzroy he had two years at Adelaide with a state list at his disposal and did FA.

Malcolm Blight took over and immediately won two flags.

Or was that all Shaw's great preparatory work.

It is quite feasible to say yes, it was.

verbs · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:55 pm

nightcrawler wrote:

verbs wrote:

I have read quite a few things over the past five years which have told me Shaw is head and shoulders above many of the current senior coaches going around. His insight into the caper is quite exceptional.

Well in that case we should get him to mentor Voss :lol:

Voss doesn't need a mentor. Either he gets in and does the job, or he takes on a assistant role and learns what's involved. There is no middle ground.

tommi · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:03 pm

Wow............

everybody knows Robert Shaw was the second worst
AFL coach EVA............!

complete IDIOT..............!

kindest regards tommi

murraycray · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:49 pm

Michael Voss said today he's looking for ''What's right for Michael Voss'' and if he were to coach it would be with a club with ''Resources''.
If he isn't commited, and as keen as mustard to coach our club right now then we should go on with what we've got . And in Ratts what we've got is the man we need.
What this club needs right now is a coach that is desperate to succeed, someone who has a deep love of this footy club, someone with a great football brain.
I cannot remember the last time I was happy after a Carlton loss, but today I was proud of the boys and reminded what a great club we support.
Vossy, I've got news for you, this is not about "what's right for Michal Voss'' it's about WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CARLTON FOOTBALL CLUB.
Forget the glitz and glamour , I think Ratts is the man .

chubbyruss · **Joined:** Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:59 am **Posts:** 8631

I had to chuckle when Sheahan said on AW that we had a shocking list & then when Voss was interviewd he said there wasn't much between the 16 teams. He said they were all capable of beating each other

IMHO the deal is done

Voss is the man

blue_blood3 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:04 pm

If Voss wants the job a carlton i rekon he'll get it

camel · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:04 am

murraycray wrote:

Michael Voss said today he's looking for ''What's right for Michael Voss'' and if he were to coach it would be with a club with ''Resources''.
If he isn't commited, and as keen as mustard to coach our club right now then we should go on with what we've got . And in Ratts what we've got is the man we need.
What this club needs right now is a coach that is desperate to succeed, someone who has a deep love of this footy club, someone with a great football brain.
I cannot remember the last time I was happy after a Carlton loss, but today I was proud of the boys and reminded what a great club we support.
Vossy, I've got news for you, this is not about "what's right for Michal Voss'' it's about WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CARLTON FOOTBALL CLUB.
Forget the glitz and glamour , I think Ratts is the man .

It's kinda hard to know how to interpret such comments though. As with the suggestion that reports of us chasing Judd and Pavlich hard being a smokescreen to allow us to lure other uncontracted types with less fanfare. Certainly on face value the interview Voss gave on Ch10 indicated he was probably less than 50/50 to coach in 2008, but the reality might be quite a bit different???

Barnesy · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:15 pm

On 3aw Caro mentioned this about our Ratt's.

A senior Carlton person conveyed to the playing group (either as a group or individually) that if they won 4 of the remaining games then Ratt's would be installed as coach from next year.

Tony Shaw then went on to say "what happens if they win 3?"

Caro's reply was that she had it on good authority "that is what I have been told"...

Anyway right, wrong or indifferent thought I would bring it to your attention.....

TheGame · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:23 pm

Pratt said it and it was posted here a day or two ago.

malbi · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:26 pm

I thought we were tanking.

Give it to Ratts anyway. Voss doesn't have the fire in the belly.

Big Kahuna Boot · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:01 pm

..yeah i agree, Vossy isn't the most media savvy, and all this latest talk could just be his way of throwing off the scent, because in truth he might already be signed up and now him and club are trying to act like they didn't do anything prematurely..

..personally i'd rather ratts..

bluebeard · **Posted:** Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:25 pm

ROBERT SHAW!!!!!!!!

WOW...THAT IS THE FUNNIEST THING I HAVE HEARD SINCE MICK NUNAN!!!!!!!!

I WILL MOVE TO GREENLAND IF ROBERT SHAW COACHES CARLTON!!!!!!!!!

"Voss key to coach race" Caro 28/7/07

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