I don't want him either, StKilda have already tried the whole taking the star player straight out of the media thing and it failed dismally.

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Dont forget the price tag part either - nearly coughed up my wheaties when I saw he is commanding $600K per year according to Courier mail reports.

I have a mate who is in a position where he gets to speak to lots of people to do with AFL from administrators to coaches to players to recruiters etc. he has heard from many many sources that Guy McKenna will be an aweful coach. He is aparantly a few poor communicator and the whole Mckenna thing is being pushed by the media. In fact, Brad Gotch (is that his name?) from Williamstown once asked Malthouse why he always talks up McKenna and not him and he was told "I just answer what the media ask me.. Do I think McKenna can be a senior coach".. even at the pies it is said that they rate Gotch much higher than McKenna as he has coached his own side and been a success. People from the west also say he is very ordinary as was pointed out by the eagles allowing him to go after 1 year.... he was a favorite son there and if he was any good, this person said that there is no way they would have let him go to Collingwood.

For the record, I don't think Voss is the right man as he has no coaching experience........ I still believe we will poach an existing AFL coach or stick with Ratts..... No point really speculating as we will know soon after R22...

Good post Molly.

I am amazed at how adamant some of the numbnuts on this site are about who should or should not coac... Let me make this simple YOU DONT AND WOULDNT KNOW!

Betting has been suspended on the Carlton coaching job.

Voss was favourite at $3
Rattan next at $5.50

I reckon once our management have interviewed the main candidates they will have a better idea of the right man than you keyboard warriors.


Oh! For my money it will be Voss, with a senior board level coaching mentor. If Swann wants McKenna it will be for good reason, as he knows him well, so I'm happy either way.

WHo do I want as coach? I wouldnt have a @#$%&! clue, I have not interviewd the candidates.

One thing is certain, the new coach will need Charisma and Market appeal, and will be younger.

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SOS has the younger bit, don't know about the other stuff.

Has John Longmires name been mentioned? He has huge wraps up here in Sydney and narrowly missed the Aints job.

Would it be too familiar having anothe Nth Melbourne coash?

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Just on that, does anyone understand why? Is there more information in the wild regarding our position than the other three? Is it now (unofficially) a fait accompli that Voss has the job, or is it simply that the recent words of 'support' for him from Pratt and Swann have been given too much credence by betting agencies?

McRae has some decent credentials in U18 circles.

Scott has some experience at a reasonable level too I think. Enough for either of them to have merit in an assistant/positional role.

It's Leppistch that I'm not sure of.

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Hi Ruckus,

here is a link to an article in today's Courier-Mail: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22134373-5003410,00.html

For those too lazy to follow the link, here is the guts of it:



Make of it what you will. I'll reiterate that I have complete confidence in this Club making the best decision possible (whatever that might be).

Rest assured.. we get whoever we want.
If we want Voss we will get Voss.
If we want McKenna we will get McKenna.

Let them work out whoever they want.. its a plum job.. financially and professionally.

Other clubs cant keep.

Same as if a player wants to change clubs.

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stop taking those angry pills, I thought you said you wanted a coach with experience, when you actually said you wanted.... a coach with experience. OK I see that you did not ask for a coach who had had success...just experience.

My point was that given the example we all know about (but which shall remain unmentionable so as to not side-track the conversation) hiring experienced coaches does not always translate into success, so why not punt on inexperience?

Sorry this was an explanatory remark to exsing, I know it's already been addressed in this thread and don't expect it to be answered again...

My mail from a strong source that has always proved reliable is that the contract between Voss and Carlton has been signed.

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If you're going to take Voss' lack of coaching experience and equate him with Tim Watson, then I suppose you also have to take a Guy McKenna and equate him with Danny Frawley or Jeff Gieshen or any number of ex-assistants turned senior coaches who failed miserably.

I think the fact is that you don't really know how well a person's going to go in the senior role until they get it. There's a massive difference between assisting (in any role, coaching or non-sport related) and actually taking charge. Massive difference.

For mine, you choose the best quality individual, give them everything they need, and 9 times out of 10, then won't let you down.

Here's one to consider:

How about Matthews with Voss as his second-in-command? Then you'd be taking the entire core of the Lions leadership group.

Whichever way it goes, it's going to be interesting I feel.

That's my concern too Agro. If Voss brings Brittain along too then I'm pretty well convinced that Fev will be traded.

I don't understand how some people can be so sure that Voss is going to change the club - he's had no coaching experience!!! I do not want him coaching us next year, unless he's along as assistant coach.

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By that Agro, I can only assume Britts, yes?

Lara Bingle?