Let's not forget that Ron Evans is no longer around. If he was, I'd have no doubt we'd be flower up the arse yet again.

DUC, its just talkback but it frustrates me hearing this crap because it will slowly build to more focus and scrutiny on our clubs every move (especially team selection).

If the AFL dare even suggest some sort of scrutiny I will lose it!!!

Spot on thank god that scum bag don sucker is worm food.

In the fallout of DP’s sacking and the massive amount of talk that this has generated I have noticed a trend of opinion raising the issue that we will be looking to tank for the rest of the season to ensure the PP and people (mostly non-Carlton!) imploring that the AFL perhaps investigate or punish us for such conduct (if it could be proven). It is very irritating!



It is laughable yet infuriating

We not only don’t need to tank as we are simply not good enough, however, our every move should not now be subject to intense scrutiny because we are somehow going to benefit from the draft system that is designed to support poor teams. This type of talk has started now. Watch how bad it gets as the losses keep accumulating!

Even here in SA they were suggesting that Carlton should be deprived the amount of Denis Pagan's contract payout in the end of year dividend due to gross mis management. It's laughable the rubbish that comes our way.

I loveit!
Everyone is worried about what were doing... bugger em.

We didnt create the draft....
We didnt create the priority pick....
The AFL turned a competition into something where teams dont compete...

Kreuzer... come on down and join Walker.. Murphy... Gibbs... Kennedy to a football club dynasty of sustained success.

The problem with the draft and the priority pick is its meant to be socialism ..... but you cannot eradicate ambition .
If you want a premiership you need A graders.... A graders come through the draft usually in the top 3... and were lining our pockets with A graders...

flower em!!!

In the fallout of DP’s sacking and the massive amount of talk that this has generated I have noticed a trend of opinion raising the issue that we will be looking to tank for the rest of the season to ensure the PP and people (mostly non-Carlton!) imploring that the AFL perhaps investigate or punish us for such conduct (if it could be proven). It is very irritating!

It seems that some are whinging that now that Carlton appears to be in a position to perhaps benefit from the current PP rules and get pick 1 and perhaps can’t or won’t have a chance to win their remaining games that the spotlight should be turned on our performances, team selection and list management approach to perhaps identify any evidence of deliberate tanking. It is ironic that now that we have this suspicion placed upon us that the people are imploring that the AFL’s focus should magnify like never before on our every move.

There was no evidence of this type of cynicism and concern when the filth booked in up to half a dozen of their 1st team players into season ending surgery 8 weeks out from round 22 in 2005, as did the dawks that year ending in both clubs acquiring PP selection in that years draft. In fact their behaviour was that questionable and surrounded in scepticism that the AFL felt right to modify the PP rules the following year to try and avert that type of managerial decision making. The dogs also reverted to a youth selection policy late 2004/5 (?) when they refused to select older age players who had form in the 2’s as they tried to sort through their kids in the last remaining games. It almost led to the case ending in the courts. No outcry then. Now that we might be looking at our kids in the remaining games we are somehow breaching rules and should be almost investigated.

It is laughable yet infuriating

We not only don’t need to tank as we are simply not good enough, however, our every move should not now be subject to intense scrutiny because we are somehow going to benefit from the draft system that is designed to support poor teams. This type of talk has started now. Watch how bad it gets as the losses keep accumulating!

Ideally, I would like to win all next 6 games, but we can't, we are simply not good enough. Play the kids (Raso etc) and see who stays and goes. 2008 pre-season starts now.
How does getting thrashed by 117 points means were tanking. Idiots.

The AFL cannot change the rules this year so stiff sh1t

Its all the Richmond supporters crying, coming last and no number 1 pick.

Interesting case - If Melbourne happen to snag a win before rd 22 and both teams happen to be sitting on 4 wins then the TANK would be interesting to watch. Who tanks more wins. Would be a funny game to watch.

Every year this same argument comes up and the current system simply encourages mediocrity too much. However, this year there is this ridiculous situation that a club is able to obtain 1st pick before the wooden spooner. I personally don’t give a flower and will be laughing for years to come at the ferals if we qualify for a PP, because we were so comprehensively rorted last year with the AFL changes to the priority pick qualification criteria that we are more than deserving of a bonus this year should the results end up that way.

Flower the AFL!!!
And flower everyone else!!!

I was livid with last years situation and if we don’t manage another win this year then the rules are in place for us come draft time. Any complaints forward to P.Keane and co. at Flowerwit House!!!