not going to happen anytime soon, you talk of kangaroos, who are their enforcers? they certainly arent their kids, its the senior players.


to get some of those in, we will need to recruit mature bodies.

also, i dont think that side is as slow as you may think it is

anderson, griggs, walker, bower, simpson, russel, houlihand, betts all have abut of toe about them

but that is also something we can look at in the upcoming draft.

but i do liken us to Geelong. I think we will improve next year, but still have a few shit games, but generally will be alot more consitent.

year after we will take another step, another pre-season, players becoming stronger etc.., year after that (2010) should see us aiming towards finals and having a fair crack.

i dont think our list is as bad as what many say, its the one thing i have agreed with on Pagan, we need time to give them a couple more preasons, time for them to mature into the roles.


Team for 2008 (im not a 100% sure of the ages, but they are what i think they are)

FF - Fisher (22) - Fevola (26) - Betts (21)
HF - Gibbs (18) - Kennedy (19) - Houlihan (25)
C- Simpson(22) - Scotland (26) - Russel (21)
HB - Thorton (22) - Waite (23) - Walker (22)
FB - Bower (20) - Setanta (23) - Anderson (19)
Ruck - Cloke (22) Murphy (20) Stevens (27)
Int - Krezuer (18) Aisake (21) Griggs (18) Blackwell (21) Hartlett (22)

and that doesnt include what else we get in this years draft

same team, 2010, and about 200kgs heavier and alot fitter across the board

FF - Fisher (25) - Fevola (29) - Betts (24)
HF - Gibbs (21) - Kennedy (22) - Houlihan (28)
C- Simpson(25) - Scotland (29) - Russel (24)
HB - Thorton (25) - Waite (26) - Walker (25)
FB - Bower (23) - Setanta (26) - Anderson (22)
Ruck - Cloke (25) Murphy (23) Stevens (30)
Int - Krezuer (21) Aisake (24) Griggs (21) Blackwell (24) Hartlett (25)

and suddenly, with all players around 10kgs more, some less, some more, and alot fitter and stronger, and we start to see a good side on the park.

if we do it right, we can create a dynasty, and that is with vastly using the majority of the team we have (assuming they come on as expected)

i hope so, coz the youth policy can flower right off for couple of years...

Given the unaccountable way Scotland has played his footy this year (previous years?) I would have Carrots in the side ahead of him in a heartbeat

I dont hate Carazzo, but for me, someone that gets 35 Possesions a game, he is no where near as damaging as he should be.

I think, in time, players like Russel, Blackwell etc.. will be more damaging with it.

It wouldnt surprise me to see Carazzo not at the club in 3 years time, and i say that in no disrespect to Carrots, as he is a good player, if he can get his skill level up he will still be there, if he cant i dont think he will be.

Geelong got rid of him for a reason.

Trade Fevola for a first rounder and a established ruckman(Port Adelaide first rounder and Minson maybe)


Just play kids

Delist Whitnall, Lappin, Kouta, Saddington, McLaren, Teague, Bannister,Scotland, Houlihan, Wiggins,Ackland


Make Simpson captain

Murphy wil get his go

Thats 12 guys off the list

Promote Jackson, Jamison, Aisake and Jacobs along with Minson


This would leave chosing 7 youngsters in the draft



Lets clean out all the deadwood and start the rebuilding stage


No need to keep these players because of age, lack of application, softness and offfield behaviour and being a sookie, sookie la la

These guys wont be part of the successful Carlton that will start to occur in 2009 onwards.

And take Sticks with you.

Get Judd for Fev and Pick 19 (or there abouts) OR pick 3 and 19 - we must keep the number 1 pick.

Judd is the only experienced player we should look at and trade for.

Otherwise we continue to develop our own stars.

You forgot Wiggo, Scott.