September 29th 2011. After Richmond win the grand final.

Hey guys............

how many games did Hawthorn win in 03-05........?


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

wednesday 5th September 1:10pm

When he looks in the rear vision mirror & runs up someones arse

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

2003

Carlton - 4
Hawthorn - 12

2004

Carlton - 10
Hawthorn - 4

2005

Carlton - 4
Hawthorn -5

Total

Carlton - 18
Hawthorn - 21


Last year was a shocker thou.......................

Carlton - 3
Hawthorn - 9

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
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Cheers 2000..........

i just wanted to see how much damage was subjected
on Hawthorns kids during this period............!

cos honestly...........i get the feeling they're
doing alright these days.......sure........they weren't all there
during this time...........but 04 and 05 were pretty average......!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

After Round 17 when we get trashed by over 100 points from St Kilda- again.

is this a nightmare or what?


I say Monday 30 July at 11am.

Good point Tommi................

The Hawthorn kids do seem to be doing ok, and theose losses didn;t seem to do TOO MUCH damage (in the long term i mean).

I'm checking up on the average losses thou, cause no doubt a 100 point thrashing like the ones the Carlton kids bare most of the time surely wouldn't compare to that of a close but unlucky 2 or 3 goal margin.

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
- Aristotle

Remember the TV show "Yes Minister"?......"Yes Bernard.....in the fullness of time".

We are all impatient, but it's out of our hands.

Tuesday 31st July at 11am.

Nice to see people looking at the future.

As Deano so politely requested me to do so, I abstain.

But without giving a date at all, Id say that Denis will be definately gone before either of the regional civil war in Iraq following the US troop withdrawl, or else the US invasion of Iran. Not sure which one of these will be the war that depresses everyone, but one of them probably will be, maybe both will happen at the same time.

But when these do, you will know that Carlton will be very close to winning another flag. At least that will cheer people up a bit and give them a happy, but very crowded train, tram, bicycle ride - or brisk walk home.

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My Blue Heaven

Great those wars are not going to end any time soon, at least not in a few months. Does that mean we are stuck with the old horse Denis for next year ?

Those wars I mentioned are new and worse ones on top of the ones already going at the moment. Denis will definately be gone when these start.

At that time of these wars there are additional effects that you will clearly notice.

One of these is that petrol prices climb to ridiculously high levels, $2, $3 or even $4 per litre and a recession will come because of these petrol price hikes.

Feel free to openly blame our and other governments either now or at the time for much of this - for they will have let many many people down as the result of their totally disgraceful actions which will have betrayed and deceived many good and quite blameless people.

For a great deal of suffering is directly because of the deceitful things that they will do and this suffering is indeed quite avoidable and preventable.

The suffering here will be mainly due to very unpleasant economic affects on everyone, and a general sense of fear and anxiety due to quite horrible wars that will threaten to widen. - And is what I was talking about when I said that when Carlton comes good, it is during the time of a bad war, which effects everyone.

There are well established reasons for this, which I cant explain here, but these things, war and petrol price rises - would happen very very quickly and for most will occur without any warning at all.

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My Blue Heaven

I wrote another post on them somewhere. Hawthorn and Collingwood have finished above us.

In Denis' reign, it was only 2004 that they did worse than us, and Hawthorn were 15th and Collingwood were 13th. The rest of the time, we have done worse than them consistently, and collingwood landed in 5th in 2006.

Collingwood have got their kids by a COMBINATION of finishing low (no lower than us), trading (far better than us) and recruiting really well from the various drafts. Collingwood and Hawthorn have just done really well with what they've been given, plus a few first round picks. They've hade no better clay to work with in terms of draft picks than us. It's their list management and recruiting team.

Don't blame draft penalties, because they ran out in the 2003 draft (Walker's draft).

So by keeping Pagan on as senior coach indefinitely, we can delay a catastrophic middle-eastern conflict that will not only take thousands of lives, but plunge the global economy into a deep recession?



On balance, I say we adopt the lesser of two evils. Sack Pagan.

Here is one from left field

IMO Pagan should go. Its like a bad marriage. Why hang around and watch the corpse rot more

If as some people have suggested that the new coach is already a done deal why not

Sack Pagan and install Tom Hafey as coach for the remainder of the year


Watching the team is so frustrating because some of the basics about winning football which will never change have been forgotten by our players

Having Hafey coach some of our kids over 2 months would be a benefit because Hafey is such a brilliant role model. And he is such a positive person. Geez what a change that would be.

Leave the tactics to Ratten, Bradley and co

Now that would be something that would really change a worldline - Sack Pagan and then install Tom Hafey as caretaker coach.

Stroke of genius.

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My Blue Heaven

I have a new theory

Directors coming on TC next tuesday night. Why would they come on when they know the thread will be bombarded with questions on Pagan's coaching? Answer: Pagan will be sacked on Monday 16th at 11am.

If this theory doesn't come through I stick to my original

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

Denis aint going no where i tell ya.

it's all driven by the media.

they have been building up to this so called day.

and cause us blues supporters got nothing to be excited about we jumping on board.

mark my words Denis aint going no where this year.

there will be plenty of changes come years end but Denis will be staying put.

good night.

That's that then.

The PP is all ours