Interesting press release from the Club today re Fevola's return...

http://carltonfc.com.au/Season2007/News ... wsId=46907



Could it be any more understated? I still think we haven't heard the last of all this...

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A golf-mate of my dad works with the dad of one of our leadership group (not sure if I should mention his name), and he tells him that Fev was out all night on the booze at the casino in Perth, and that Pagan put the blame on this particular player for not getting him home on-time. So rather than focus on the indiscretion of Fevola, he takes it out on the guy "looking after him". If this is the case, it's clear that Swann (perhaps with the help of the leadership group) has gone over Pagan's head, and clearly disapproves of the way he handled it.

You can take it with a grain of salt if you like, but I'm very confident that this is what happened. I'm only surprised none of these "journalists" have managed to pick up anything about this.

I wouldn't be surprised by that, don.

Pagan's fate has been so closely linked with Fevola's fortunes over the years, he'd probably go out of his way to look after Fev.

And there are plenty of stories of Pagan playing favourites over at North... one rule for some, one rule for others.

Yep, he's the only coach who'd do that.

Malthouse was honest about the fact that discipline is adjusted according to the quality of the wayward player. Big news that.

Sheedy is famous for having project players who are played no matter what.

Aker was tolerated while the side was vying for premierships.

Would the Eagles put up with the crap from Cousins and Kerr if they weren't elite players? And yet Gardiner was the one who was given the bullet for similar behaviour. Strangely enough, he had injury problems which reduced his value.

Whenever Pagan is replaced, his successor will give latitude to high-performing individuals. And he'll see things in some players which elude most supporters, and give limited opportunities to players who some think are worth more time.

Welcome to the real world.

Very interesting insight about the draft depth. There is sure to be one or two that come from nowhere after pick 40, hopefully we get them!

Trading Fev becomes an interesting scenario, really must get two first round picks at worst, if a trade is done.

I wonder if clubs will pass at the national draft (where I think they have to give a minimum of a 2 year contract) in favour of the pre season draft, where I think a 1 year contract can be given.

The comments about the rookie draft are good news for guys like Jamieson, Jacobs and Young who are almost guaranteed another year by the sound of it.

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yeah, sure Indie.

but we're not talking about ben cousins here (the guy chris judd emplored to share the podium with him on grand final day), we're talking about brendan fevola, the guy that the playing list refused to endorse as captain for a week, despite him clearly being our best player.

that is crystal clear evidence that the players had/have a problem with fevola's attitude. and when your coach backs such a player over the rest of the list, well... you don't have to be Einstein to figure out how that's going to affect esprit de corps.

Yeah, I think you'll probably find that those other clubs mentioned would also have leadership groups completely behind those players who have been in trouble, as well as the coach, mainly because their indiscretions took place off the field, not on it. I don't necessarily agree with it, in fact I think it's weak.

But Fev on the other hand is casting a poor reflection on us in both arenas, but is still supported by his coach but not his teammates. He should answer to the team, not keep looking to uncle Denis to bail him out everytime.

fev will play.....the forward line will be open and he will kick the majority of scores for us over the next 8 rounds....


we will be looking to raise his value.

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Don't be hung up on the vote for captaincy.

As with Aker, a player might be seen as a squeaky wheel but be accepted by the coaching staff and other players as being an elite player who can help the team win. As far as I can tell, he was never invited onto the podium by Michael Voss, and never went within cooee of a leadership role.

Fraser Gehrig is another example. Strangely enough, Capuano, Steven Lawrence and he were in a tight group whose behaviour caused the coaches quite a bit of concern. But only Lawrence and Capuano were sacked. Gehrig remained because he was an elite power forward. I'm sure that model citizens like Harvey rolled their eyes at some of his antics. To a lesser degree, Milne was hardly a great team man, but he added something that the team would have thought was worthwhile.

I'm sure that the players might roll their eyes at some of Fev's antics. But there wouldn't be many on our list who don't regard him as a special player with rare match-winning capabilities. And most players would accept that his genius inevitably will result in him being treated differently to honest battlers. Let's face it - full-forwards have tended to be whackers, not only at AFL level but in lower grades as well.

Was at the footy clinic with junior today. As we arrived the players were coming back from a run.

Fev was comletely swamped and stood there and signed for over an hour. He is clearly still the most popular player (at least with the kids). I was quite impressed how patient he was and how long he continued signing etc. So he must have been in a good mood...

Popular with the kids, popular with the members, popular even with the coach...... but not as popular with all parts of the Carlton playing group.

Just wish he'd rediscover his popularity with the scoresheet!!

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It appears that yesterday's meeting of the minds decided that the Fevola punishment will continue this week.


He is allowed to train but he will be playing for the Ants this weekend- According to Adam White on 927 last night.

That's not what the official press release said. Check the other thread.

Source?

I'd check your source on that one

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This link comes directly from Carlton Website. I suggest you read this first before posting rumors

http://carltonfc.com.au/Season2007/News ... wsId=46907

You sure thats right ? (the rumour that is)

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he had the press release but still believed that he was not a sure thing that he would be selected.

No other info, just what I heard.

It does raise an interesting question though...should he be able to walk straight into the seniors.

His form has been awful, his attitude has been appalling. Would we select him on form?