Princes Park/Carlton redevelopment is in motion.

linchpin · **Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:47 pm

It is projected to start on the 1st of Feb 2008...

Here is apart of the official release of information.

Proposed redevelopment of football club building facilities. Proposed works to include retain and significantly refurbish the existing Harris Stand; retain and refurbish the Heroes Stand; demolish the existing Gardiner Stand; demolish or modify the existing Pratt Stand and Heatley Stand. Create new social club and community meeting areas including public cafe/bistro overlooking Princes Park; meeting rooms; function room(s); merchandise and membership sales shop and office/administration space. Development of joint usage community facilities including sports medicine suites; fitness trainer studios; 25m x 4 lane indoor pool; personal training rooms; meeting rooms and lecture theatre. Upgrade Carlton Football Club administration offices; development of other football industry office space for groups such as AFL Sportsready or Football Victoria; development of new elite training facilities for Carlton Football Club; development of the High Performance Fencing Centre.

The value of the project is listed at 10 Million. The project manager is now appointed.

It is still at planning stage, so this will go to tender, contracts awarded yet but it is great to know that this is well under way!

The info, at this stage is privileged. You guys are the first to see it outside the industry.....

buzzaaaah · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:31 am **Posts:** 17892

Thanks linchpin. Hope you don't get lynched for sharing the info

Kouta · **Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:04 pm

linchpin wrote:

It is projected to start on the 1st of Feb 2008...

Here is apart of the official release of information.

Proposed redevelopment of football club building facilities. Proposed works to include retain and significantly refurbish the existing Harris Stand; retain and refurbish the Heroes Stand; demolish the existing Gardiner Stand; demolish or modify the existing Pratt Stand and Heatley Stand. Create new social club and community meeting areas including public cafe/bistro overlooking Princes Park; meeting rooms; function room(s); merchandise and membership sales shop and office/administration space. Development of joint usage community facilities including sports medicine suites; fitness trainer studios; 25m x 4 lane indoor pool; personal training rooms; meeting rooms and lecture theatre. Upgrade Carlton Football Club administration offices; development of other football industry office space for groups such as AFL Sportsready or Football Victoria; development of new elite training facilities for Carlton Football Club; development of the High Performance Fencing Centre

The value of the project is listed at 10 Million. The project manager is now appointed.

It is still at planning stage, so this will go to tender, contracts awarded yet but it is great to know that this is well under way!

The info, at this stage is privileged. You guys are the first to see it outside the industry.....

Jarusa · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:00 am **Posts:** 23123

The paragraph in blue has been available online for several months in a pdf file:
http://www.sport.vic.gov.au/web9/rwpgsl ... Venues.pdf

Something related to this issue:
A Tribute to the Gardiner Stand

linchpin · **Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:11 pm

Fine Jarusa! Shoot me down!

I know that the format I have received is only new. I have some further technical detail that would not mean much to you guys.

Jarusa · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:00 am **Posts:** 23123

sorry mate, just thought it looked familiar. :-D

Siegfried · **Joined:** Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:30 pm **Posts:** 2862

I like the last line actually...

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The info, at this stage is privileged. You guys are the first to see it outside the industry.....

How kind of them to furnish TC with such privileged information!

ScottSaunders · **Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:46 pm

linchpin wrote:

Fine Jarusa! Shoot me down!

I know that the format I have received is only new. I have some further technical detail that would not mean much to you guys.

Let it out mate, i might have an idea of whats happening :-D

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

mjonc · **Posted:** Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:44 pm

Wouldn't happen to be an ammendment to the RFP released a few months ago?

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:00 am

buzzaaaah wrote:

Thanks linchpin. Hope you don't get lynched for sharing the info

Or pinned either :shock:

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:04 am

What will be the final capacity of PP? I had a dream (whilst awake) that Mr Grollo and Mr Pratt would decide to build a new private stadium on the site for about 40K spectators to be used by the Blues as their home ground when appropriate (against Adelade, Port etc) and by the AFL at a price for other games.

linchpin · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:11 am

Blue Sombrero wrote:

What will be the final capacity of PP? I had a dream (whilst awake) that Mr Grollo and Mr Pratt would decide to build a new private stadium on the site for about 40K spectators to be used by the Blues as their home ground when appropriate (against Adelade, Port etc) and by the AFL at a price for other games.

Don't be ridiculous!

Can the mods ban Blue Sombrero???

He makes way to much sense for this forum! :shock:

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:04 am

linchpin wrote:

Blue Sombrero wrote:

What will be the final capacity of PP? I had a dream (whilst awake) that Mr Grollo and Mr Pratt would decide to build a new private stadium on the site for about 40K spectators to be used by the Blues as their home ground when appropriate (against Adelade, Port etc) and by the AFL at a price for other games.

Don't be ridiculous!

Can the mods ban Blue Sombrero???

He makes way to much sense for this forum! :shock:

Not many would agree but I am one of them :lol:

Mordan · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:19 am

linchpin wrote:

Blue Sombrero wrote:

What will be the final capacity of PP? I had a dream (whilst awake) that Mr Grollo and Mr Pratt would decide to build a new private stadium on the site for about 40K spectators to be used by the Blues as their home ground when appropriate (against Adelade, Port etc) and by the AFL at a price for other games.

Don't be ridiculous!

Can the mods ban Blue Sombrero???

He makes way to much sense for this forum! :shock:

I think plenty of people are well aware that Carlton will only be playing home games at PP in their dreams. Blue Sombrero certainly isn't on his own there.

Princes Park Whistler · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:01 pm

I think there will be a huge push for home games against the interstaters once the redevelopment is complete.When you consider the green light from the AFL for Geelong home games at Kardinia Park and how much of an advantage that is for them and our appauling record at Telstra dome,i think we have a strong case.The AFL have already admitted that Vic clubs have lost too much since the inception of the national competition and i think Dimitriou/Fitzy would be more prepared to negotiate with King Richard than Elliott.

Mordan · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:22 pm

Princes Park Whistler wrote:

I think there will be a huge push for home games against the interstaters once the redevelopment is complete.When you consider the green light from the AFL for Geelong home games at Kardinia Park and how much of an advantage that is for them and our appauling record at Telstra dome,i think we have a strong case.The AFL have already admitted that Vic clubs have lost too much since the inception of the national competition and i think Dimitriou/Fitzy would be more prepared to negotiate with King Richard than Elliott.

The money coming from the state government is conditional on no more AFL games being played at PP. From memory the money is coming from a fund that isn't available to venues that host elite level competitions, or something like that.

There are more hurdles than just the AFL that will need to be overcome for that to happen.

Princes Park Whistler · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:48 pm

Quote:

The money coming from the state government is conditional on no more AFL games being played at PP. From memory the money is coming from a fund that isn't available to venues that host elite level competitions, or something like that.

There are more hurdles than just the AFL that will need to be overcome for that to happen.

So the gov`t are prepared to spend millions of dollars on a venue that no one will use.Policy can change quickly depending on the current mood.Anyway it may be a few years before we are considered elite.

Mordan · **Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:08 pm

Princes Park Whistler wrote:

Quote:

The money coming from the state government is conditional on no more AFL games being played at PP. From memory the money is coming from a fund that isn't available to venues that host elite level competitions, or something like that.

There are more hurdles than just the AFL that will need to be overcome for that to happen.

So the gov`t are prepared to spend millions of dollars on a venue that no one will use.Policy can change quickly depending on the current mood.Anyway it may be a few years before we are considered elite.

No, they just allocate a certain amount of money for the development of elite training facilities. It will get plenty of use. One of the conditions they put on access to the money is that it can't be for a venue that hosts top level matches to stop the MCG and the Dome etc trying to get theirs hands on it.

You're right, politicians change their mind all the time, just I wouldn't be holding my breath on this one if I were you.

Anyway, once we come good I hope we're pulling crowds too big for PP (especially minus one stand due to the re-development) even against the interstate teams.

Princes Park/Carlton redevelopment is in motion.

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