We will get a fair indication on where the players sit with this on the weekend.

Melbourne are not travelling the best the sentiment of Daniher going would have been spent on Friday night , If the players come out firing it will show that Fev is a rotten egg with in the club and must go. Another performance like we have seen in the last two games then it is 2003 all over again .

Does Pagan still weild the same clout he had back then

there is never a dull moment at this club

Well Cousins will probably play this week, so what he says and does is two different things.

Also Fev played a big role in those wins dragging the best defenders outside 50. How do you think Waite and Fish would handle playing on Scarlett, Rutten or Glass? Yeah didn't think so.

I dont beleieve this Crap....This is a Pagan's Desperate move to save his own Career at the expense of Fevola..


Fevola is pathetic at his worst, but wether we like it or not, he is carried the Club for years, and won games from his own boots....

Getting rid of him will push us back another 5 years, becuase if he is gone, no one else will kick goals...


if people think that Waite can kick a bag, or whitnall, or Fisher, or any other forward, they are kidding themseleves....


The only reason why our forward line has been able to kick so many goals without Fev is becuase of Fevola's presence and the Fact that he Takes 2 defenders with him at every contest.....


This whole thing should have been kept Private, and he should have been punished but not by a public Display....

This is purely done to Save Pagan's career cuase i bet he is feeling the Heat and desperation might lead him to Trade Fev without any hesitation

Sorry Fevolution, but I disagree strongly with you.

I have been a member of Carlton since I was 7, that was 1975. I have seen Carlton through thick and thin, and I love this club. I have paid thousands and thousands of dollars to support and watch my club, and I consider it a privilege.

But the club comes before the players...any player. You said in an earlier post that any real Carlton supporter loves Fev. Well, I am a real Carlton supporter, and I do not love Fev. I have never loved Fev. When he kicked 8 goals in a half of football, I still didn't love Fev. And I'll tell you why.

You see, Fev is a gifted footballer. He has so much talent it's almost frightening. Some of the things that he does on the football field leave you breathless.

But Fev is also an immature, ego centric, self centred, selfish, childish and petulant individual. When things do not go his way, he sulks and just wants to take his bat and ball and go home. And no, this has nothing to do with Pagan (and I am very much on the get rid of Pagan bandwagon).

You see, Fev has always been like this. He was like this as a teenager, and it was why so many clubs chose not to draft him before we did. It is why it took him so long to break into the team. It is why he was almost delisted. It is why he time and time again gets dragged for being undisciplined on the field. It is why he has got into so much off-field trouble. It is why he had a barman in a headlock in Ireland (and maybe if we'd been harder on him then, he wouldn't be in the position he is now).

And it is why he was overlooked for the Captaincy. It is why, when he had a golden opportunity to put his hand up for the Captaincy that he so badly wants (and is apparently sulking over because he didn't get it), instead of putting his head down and arse up and working hard and contributing to the team, he chose to be undisciplined, petulant, and childish...and surprise, surprise...he got dragged. And his body language whilst sitting on the bench was nothing short of a disgrace.

You see Fevolution, we are all responsible for our actions. If we fail to meet standards of discipline, or to perform in a required way, in whatever area of life, then we have to take responsibility for that...it doesn't matter who you are. And unfortunately, Fev has done it time and time again. It's not like a Murphy, or a Gibbs, who get frustrated sometimes and argue with an ump, it is 10 years + of unacceptable behaviour.

Football is a team game. If you can't contribute as a part of the team, then you shouldn't be there. The argument that we are weak and Fev suffers from poor delivery and poor tactics etc is rubbish. Bob Skilton played 237 games for South Melbourne, won 3 Brownlows, was captain, and incredibly respected...and he played in 1 final in his entire career. Being surrounded by mediocrity was not an excuse for him to throw tantrums.

Someone else on here mentioned Lockett. Want to know his record at St Kilda? Kicked 77 goals in 1984 when they won the wooden spoon, 79 goals in 1985, another wooden spoon, 60 goals in 1986, yep another wooden spoon, 117 goals in 1987, finshed 10th, 78 goals in 1989, finished 3rd bottom...get the picture? And as much as Lockett was a troubled soul, he never spat the dummy on field like Fev does.

No Fevolution, I do not love Fev. When he is on song, when he is marking and goaling and sometimes even chasing, I admire him, and marvel at his skills, and in those moments, I thank the footy gods that he plays for us. But I do not love him, because he is a petulant, childish idiot.

And the problem is, he isn't changing, and he isn't performing, and he isn't contributing to the team. And he is 26, and wants to be Captain.

So, he has two choices. Either he pulls his finger out and finally grows up (and if he does step out of line, then accept responsibility for his own behaviour like an adult), or move on elsewhere.

If we knew that Fev was going to kick 80 goals + for the next 6 seasons, none of us here would want him traded. But he gives no indication that he is prepared to do what is needed to change.

I love the Carlton Football Club. I want whatever is best for the footy club. Simple. Right now, Brendan Fevola is doing nothing for the Club, and in his current space / form / attitude, he is more value for the Club as a potential trade. But that is completely his doing.

I wish we had the opportunity to be Fev-centric the last two weeks. The ball hardly got down there.

Still it's all his fault. You rotten bastard Fev.

Since 2002 without Fev Carlton is 3 wins and 16 losses.

Since 2003 without Fev Carlton is 2 wins and 11 losses.

Anyone know why Fevola travelled home separate from the rest of the team? Methinks there has been a bit of annoyance expressed by his teammates. Perhaps a bit of a "discussion" by the players in the rooms after the game. Perhaps even Fevola "taking off" after this discussion, hence his independent travel arrangements.

I have a feeling Fevola has lost his teammates.

??? What do you mean???