Talking Carlton Index Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington CFC Home CFC Membership CFC Shop CFC Fixture Blueseum
It is currently Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:29 pm

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1231 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 ... 62  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:41 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 27, 2005 1:29 pm
Posts: 1566
Location: Melbourne
This is just a guess! Purely a shot in the dark as to why the press conference was called. So don't shoot me!

What time was the training session this morning? Was Fev's absence from it planned? Is it possible that the press conference was called after Fev failed to show up for training without reason? Was THAT the final straw which resulted in his suspension for this week's match?

Actually, now that I think of it, my speculation is most probably wrong. Cos if he did miss the training session, it would have been said at the press conference wouldn't it? Hmmm...ignore me. I'm just talking to myself now...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:41 pm 
Offline
Rod Ashman

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:35 am
Posts: 2125
Quote:
How would you feel being an out and out champion having to put up with this shit for 5 years?


Out and out champion George? You're kidding aren't you. What are Voss Buckley Harvey PAvlich Judd Hird if Fev is a proven out and out champion?

If Fev does what he did last year every year till 2012, maybe, but out and out champions don't put in the sort of efforts Fev has in a number of games this year.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:42 pm 
Offline
Rod Ashman
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:44 am
Posts: 2147
Location: East Melbourne
malleefowl wrote:
I don't care whether he plays for us again or not. Trade him for what we can get.

Oh, and I am trading him out of my SuperCoach team... 8)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:50 pm 
Offline
Serge Silvagni
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 15, 2006 3:41 pm
Posts: 952
Location: way, way, way out the Outback
You have to wonder what affect his onfield antics has had on the rest of the playing team.

Is it possible the players have had enough of Fevs attitude????

I believe we will see the guys turn it right around this week without Fev!!!

_________________
BRING BACK PERFORMANCE BASE PAYMENTS !!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:53 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:48 pm
Posts: 1392
chyna wrote:
darknavy wrote:
I'm sure I saw Diesel give away 2 x 50's on more than one occasion.


Williams (generally) played for the jumper and had more skill/commitment in his little toenail than Fevola has.
Diesel, for all his faults, was not a selfish, petulant brat.
This 100m penalty is not the catalyst for Fevola's suspension FFS.
It is the straw that broke the camels back in a litany of onfield incidents and indiscretions and was waaaayyyy to long in coming.



not really he was the main reason we lost the 94 semi-final against Geelong.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:58 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:25 pm
Posts: 1655
this is a fukin disgrace. Wat bout Didak? Look wat he did and he got shit all! Fev argues with umpires and gets suspended and might not play again!! Fukin stupid, and i tell ya wot i am NOT buying a membership anymore, might not even go to another game again this year if Fev doesnt return. Coz of his shit, Fev might not return. Lets play russell, and hartlett and kennedy who have no fukin clue and are not good enough. Disgraceful by the blues, and ive had enough of this shit.

Feva you'll be back and prove those fools fukin wrong, true carlton supporters luv ya big fella, cant wait to c ya bak.

_________________
"I can't wait to win a premiership with this club" - Fev


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:00 pm 
Offline
Rod Ashman

Joined: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:01 pm
Posts: 2099
"Mens sana in corporo sano" = Sound in the body, sound in the mind.

It is what this great club is founded on.

We have kicked the 2nd most number of points this year and Fev has averaged 3 goals a game. You know, I reckon we could "cope" without him.

We need leadership at this club and he's been told today in no uncertain manner. Whether the Club should have announced via a presser, well that's 6 of one, half a ......

Mate, come back to us if you REALLY want to play for this club and want to put the Club and the development of your younger teammates ahead of your own "interests". Sorry, it's just more than giving away 2 x 50's. As if he was suspended only for this.

It's also about kids wearing their No 25's up in the stands knowing that their club champion (we ALL know he has championship abilities) is doing their very best for them. Unconditional.

All I know is this - if he's only going to be focused playing amongst a team that delivers it on a platter, sorry mate, you're at the wrong place. There are plenty of clubs that could do this for him, so Fev, start doing the ground work. It's how you perform in that magnificent NAVY BLUE jumper that interests me. If you kick a million for another team why would I be upset if I thought you would only kick 50-70 for US? It's called a win-win isn't it?

Gang, we'll get plenty for him - as we'd bloody well want to. What did Doggies give up for 30 yr old Aker in the "super draft"? First rounder?

You know, we're potentially in the ball park for Judd here. Dick could make this happen if he wants to.

Fev, you're 26 years old now, the ball is in your court.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:04 pm 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:00 am
Posts: 23123
Based on some of the arguments in this thread half the team should be suspended.

_________________
|♥♥♥♥♥♥| http://www.blueseum.org |♥♥♥♥♥♥|


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:06 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:02 am
Posts: 1770
I see nothing but a huge opportunity for the club now.

Trade Fev why we can, only if it means getting Judd to Carlton. The planets are aligning. We will have more room in the salary cap so affording Judd is not an issue.

Fev can't go into the draft as he is still contracted by the blues. It is a win win scenario.

Will they do it?

As with the press conference I think it was required. Keeping the members informed is what the club didn't do well in the past.

_________________
It is not as bad as you are lead to believe.......it is %$#^& worse!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:08 pm 
Offline
Stephen Silvagni
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:04 am
Posts: 28377
Location: *Currently banned*
Molly brought up an interesting point yesterday when he wondered how many goals Plugger would've kicked if he'd been playing for Hawthorn instead of Dunstall.

Now I can't say I have every followed St Kilda all that closely, but from memory they were constantly (apart from one or two years) down the bottom of the ladder, and Lockett still managed to ply his trade effectively. I'm sure he had a plethora of wayward delivery in his time there.

Then again he defected to Sydney, so maybe this comparison is null and void.

Anyway, I reckon the press conference was held because it is pretty big news, and they Club wanted to look like it was making a stand.

Not sure what to make of it all, but life goes on, and hopefully Fevola can get his head right and knuckle down.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:08 pm 
Offline
Mike Fitzpatrick

Joined: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:43 pm
Posts: 4745
My guess is that Fev will do a Fat Tony Mokbel and dissappear for a while. Hope it doesn't happen, but its a strong possibility.

The Tiges would be ok with Fev at FF, Richo CHF and Brown in the pocket. If they'd give us their top two draft picks for Fev, then we'd have maybe 1, 2 and 3 in the draft plus more in the top 20. Add this to Murph and Gibbs, and a new coach, and we'd be just like the Dawks..............set for the next decade !!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:13 pm 
Offline
Bruce Doull
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 am
Posts: 35135
Lil' Miss Wojee won't be impressed.

_________________
"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:14 pm 
Offline
Alex Jesaulenko
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am
Posts: 22357
Fevolution wrote:
this is a flower disgrace. Wat bout Didak? Look wat he did and he got shit all! Fev argues with umpires and gets suspended and might not play again!! flower stupid, and i tell ya wot i am NOT buying a membership anymore, might not even go to another game again this year if Fev doesnt return. Coz of his shit, Fev might not return. Lets play russell, and hartlett and kennedy who have no flower clue and are not good enough. Disgraceful by the blues, and ive had enough of this shit.

Feva you'll be back and prove those fools flower wrong, true carlton supporters luv ya big fella, cant wait to c ya bak.


with all due respect fevolution, brendan could pimp slap your grandma, the proceed to shit in your sunday roast, and he would be still a god in your eyes. :roll:

obviously it is deeper than last weeks game. he is getting a message to sent to him. something which has been brewing for a while now.

_________________
dane's trolling again


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:18 pm 
Offline
Horrie Clover

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:07 am
Posts: 329
Correct decision by the club.
Fev as a senior player shows poor on field leadership.
Do we want our young players to follow his lead every time things don't go their way?
Fev needs to grow up, he's playing a team sport, yet every time he chucks a wobbly we're effectively one man down on the field.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:20 pm 
Offline
Garry Crane

Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:31 pm
Posts: 280
Synbad wrote:
titimus wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
What a monumental f-up from the club.

I'm all for being very tough on the players in terms of trading, discipline etc. all things that benefit the CLUB must be done no matter what. If however the suspension was for the two 50M penalties (and nothing else) then it just does not make sense, he would have to be suspended every few weeks for the rest of his career if that is the case. Are they going to suspend Thornton for throwing his head back and mouthing off at team-mates when his opponent takes a mark on a lead?

If they want to trade him just make up an injury and get working in the background.

Doing it this way just tells the other clubs we are desperate and turns it into a buyers market, they will all lower their offers.


Can't agree with this Jarusa.

Firstly -- you can't seriously compare Thornton's spats after play when he is beaten by his man to Fevola's disgraceful dummy spits when the ball is still there to be won. That's what we're talking about -- Fevola whinging to the umpire, not chasing, not putting pressure on the opponent etc.

The CFC can't seriously support a player who continues to act like that when you're shaping a team of impressionable young players of the ilk of Murphy, Gibbs, Kennedy, Russell et al -- who are trying their guts out.

The club HAS TO make a stand about this sort of behaviour sooner rather than later. I have a feeling that Swann is the man who is steering this decision and after giving it a bit of thought, I applaud him. Would this sort of behaviour be tolerated at Sydney? They are the benchmark and should be the on-field model that the CFC is aspiring towards, of which this is a pretty important first step.

I don't expect that this will lower what we get if we trade Fev. His antics and pros and cons are there for all to see and are well known in the football world. Any club looking to pick him up will look at tapes of his on-field performance in 2007 and will see the negatives for which he has been suspended -- I don't think that the CFC has suddenly 'lifted the veil' for other clubs on whether he has been performing adequately or not this season.



So you call a press conference???

:lol: :lol:

Get Real!!!...

Like J said.. there are elements of our supporter base who are morons.. and just sweat on a guy like Fevola... who has issues but you dont do that publicly.



Pagan and the club as a whole has supported Fevola to the N-th degree since Pagan came along. Countless times.

When is enough finally enough? Someone finally had to make a stand and to make a hard decision and it is not before time. Obviously the mollycoddling hasn't worked because stuff all has changed. Yet you want to continue to follow the path of least resistance with this clown?

Why did the club support Fevola "publically" after the myriad on and off-field indiscretions over the past 5 years.

Since you purport to always know what is going on in the inner sanctum, perhaps you can tell us why NOW instead of 10-15-20 times ago?

The answer is that you don't have a bloody clue about what REALLY IS happening at the club.

_________________
Footytalk Has NEW HOME.
Visit them at www.footytalk.com.au and have a look around.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:25 pm 
Offline
Wayne Johnston

Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:21 pm
Posts: 8206
Suspend him by all means, he had that coming after last week, but what idiot in his right mind would actually trade him. Supporter spend too much time talking with their emotions and not enough with their brain. If he plays next year and kicks 80+ goals he'd be the best player in the world again. Typical supporters. I'm sure in the line of "people to get rid of "he'd be well behind Pagan. One wins games for us the other loses them and, in the process, personally set this club back so far.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:27 pm 
Offline
Horrie Clover
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:41 am
Posts: 395
Location: Juddville
Ok they've suspended Fev. Suddenly we have decided to show some grunt in our decision making. Whether Fev has been a scapegoat or not depends on what happens at the selection table and how long Pagan remains. If we want to suspend for lack of discipline and poor performance fine. Then it has to be goodbye to Pagan NOW. It also means the Ants for Ackland and the other duds running around who don't give a damn about the jumper or the club. I could name quite a few.

Lets be consistent and fair if this is the way we are going to go. In which case I would support this show of leadership. But if isn't applied across the board, then we really are the piss weak club I have been fearing we might become.

_________________
" Koutoufides has taken the last quarter by the scruff of the neck..." Commentary Drew Morphett Last Qtr '99 Prelim. Pure Gold.

Thanks for the memories Kouta. You are and always will be a True Blue Carlton Legend. #43.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:29 pm 
Offline
Trevor Keogh
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:24 pm
Posts: 715
although i agree Fev needs to be ridiculed for his performance this week, suspending him is ludicrous.. To me, Fev is a victim of our game plan, or as i call it the "Reverse Flood"

The reverse flood is when we continue to put players inside our forward fifty, we dont wait for the opposition to do it, we instigate it ourselves. On the weekend we had 8 forwards on direct opponents in our forward 50. Just a touch crowded. Not only do we do this, but we also allow the other team to have outriders where if a quick kick comes outside 50, they have 70 or 80 metres to run (or walk) the ball inside theirown 50, leaving Pavlich one out.

Fev would be looking at the space afforded the opposition forwards and would be ropable. Could you imagine what Fev would do with this much space??? This falls squarely on DP and the MC. If teams flood against us surely we must be smart enough to combat this rather than just bombing the ball to a pack. Why not try Fev at CHF where his kicking could be used to go over the flood???

We need to look outside the square with Fev and try to figure out why he is cracking it, not just sending him away for a week to see if he can figure himself out.

Ask yourself a question, Was his performance any worse than Acklands last 2 weeks? Was his performance any less motivating than Cain's "weak as piss" efforts the last 2 weeks??Obviously not, yet i guarantee that huge lump of shit will beplaying again this week.

Denis maybe you should take a week off to assess your performance as well.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:33 pm 
Offline
Geoff Southby
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:54 pm
Posts: 5274
Location: Melbourne
Gotta laugh at the fools here who reckon Fev is useless but yet want to trade him for Judd.

_________________
"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:34 pm 
Offline
Craig Bradley
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:29 am
Posts: 6418
Location: Casa Da Carlton - The Place to Be
Jarusa wrote:
Based on some of the arguments in this thread half the team should be suspended.


tend to agree

C.Aikland should be suspended for about 3 weeks.

_________________
Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod :)


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1231 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 ... 62  Next

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ByteDanceSpider, Google [Bot], MPH78 and 20 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group