Oh no doubt. In fact, one of the questions I'd ask would be "Are you prepared to bleed for this football club to make these changes happen?", and would make it crystal clear that if they don't, they're out the door.

As am i!!

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I can see light at the end of the tunnell.. Once we become re-energised.. Pagan's burnt out..

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No mention of either word Jars. Swann said that he would not be selected this week, and has been told to go off and have a think.

He is not required back at the Club until next Monday.

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

Exactly right. Fev is still contracted. If clubs wanna trade for him and we want to trade him, they need to make the right offer. If the offer is not good enough, he stays on the Carlton list for 2008, and we have another 12 months to turn him around.

What he said......I second that!!!!!

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

This is Bullshit...................

When is Pagan gonna be suspended? Why is it constantly the players fault yet this tool excapes criticism week-in, week-out.

Melbourne loose to Richmond by 48 points and ND looses his job.

Carlton get thumped by 10+goals 1 in every 4 matches and he's safe!

WHAT THE @#$%&! IS GOING ON????????????????

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This is Bullshit...................

When is Pagan gonna be suspended? Why is it constantly the players fault yet this tool excapes criticism week-in, week-out.

Melbourne loose to Richmond by 48 points and ND looses his job.

Carlton get thumped by 10+goals 1 in every 4 matches and he's safe!

WHAT THE @#$%&! IS GOING ON????????????????

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That is pretty ambiguous then.

If this is about sending a message you would think they would try to make the message as clear as possible.

To hold a presser you would think it is a suspension rather than just being dropped. If it is a suspension mention it is a suspension and mention exactly what he has been suspended for so that Fevola, the playing group and the supporters know exactly what the club is doing.

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The call for today was a Pagan initiative...
Swann probably went along with it cos it helps our ultimate cause...

But Denis is like an Indian batsmen.. working those deflections around..

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No doubt there is more to this than meets the eye

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What if Fev is injured and can't train this week? The CEO and coach talk to Fev and say we've got an idea to fire up the rest of the team, but we have to use you as a scapegoat. We'll say we're suspending you for a week for discipline reasons, and hopefully that will put a fire-cracker under your team-mates. Keep a low profile. See you next Monday.

Just my 2c.

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Sounds like Malthouse ruled the roost at the Pies then because a few filth players got away with a lot more last year.

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http://realfooty.com.au/news/brisbane-l ... 11270.html

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But you burn players by embarssing them publicly. (Denis is the master of that) and that is a public lynching..

And really... if you had any brains.. youd realise if you do that.. you wont get the best possible return on a trade.

Its ridiculous!!.. its laughable... and its just an example of handling something wrong.

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Spot on - with the talk already started in papers around the performances of the blues/bullants - he knew he had to do something!! He is so obvious!

Can't agree with this Jarusa.

Firstly -- you can't seriously compare Thornton's spats after play when he is beaten by his man to Fevola's disgraceful dummy spits when the ball is still there to be won. That's what we're talking about -- Fevola whinging to the umpire, not chasing, not putting pressure on the opponent etc.

The CFC can't seriously support a player who continues to act like that when you're shaping a team of impressionable young players of the ilk of Murphy, Gibbs, Kennedy, Russell et al -- who are trying their guts out.

The club HAS TO make a stand about this sort of behaviour sooner rather than later. I have a feeling that Swann is the man who is steering this decision and after giving it a bit of thought, I applaud him. Would this sort of behaviour be tolerated at Sydney? They are the benchmark and should be the on-field model that the CFC is aspiring towards, of which this is a pretty important first step.

I don't expect that this will lower what we get if we trade Fev. His antics and pros and cons are there for all to see and are well known in the football world. Any club looking to pick him up will look at tapes of his on-field performance in 2007 and will see the negatives for which he has been suspended -- I don't think that the CFC has suddenly 'lifted the veil' for other clubs on whether he has been performing adequately or not this season.

Once again using Sheehan to take the heat off himself

Brendan embarassed himself publicly on Saturday - don'tchathink?

Geez...you think Fev is embarrassed by something like this? If Fev gets embarrassed this easily, I doubt this whole issue will have existed in the first place as he would have learnt his lesson the first time.

And what would be the best possible return on a trade for Fev be? Disguise him by putting in someone that looks like him and tell that person to act responsibly onfield? Please, everyone knows what Fev is like, you couldn't possibly devalue him any less.

This guy is a goal kicking machine. Any clubs who want to trade for him knows that. That would be the sole reason they are trading for him. The fact that Carlton has dropped him for a week due to disciplinary reason will mean jack.