Pagan cant afford to lose Fevola , although it may seem that he already has.

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You want the flame? Give us the marbles!!

The only reason for him not to play would be recovery from his injury. He still takes the best defender each week and its not like his behaviour is something new to anyone at Carlton. People talking about trading him could be right if we got good value... would anyone really want to see Fev do a Barry Hall or Tony Lockett with a better team around him and a clean slate. I couldn't stand him kicking 8 goals like the dons game for the doggies or tigers. Some people mention trading for Judd.... I dont think he'd be interested in the blues somehow (just a hunch). I still think Fev should play unless injured or he does a Chris Tarrant.

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Chris Judd: 'I've since watched some Steven Seagal movies and realise pressure points are no laughing matter.'

Sounds bad but would be good. Give the Weagles a few more flags in return for consistency of effort, leadership and instant better midfield for five or six years.
They way we are going, Fev won't be in our next premiership team anyway so trade him away while he is still worth something.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Apart from the fact you seem to be challenged in the vocabulary department and must surely be under the scrutiny of the moderators, you don't seem to realize that none of the other players you have mentioned have done or are likely to do what Fev does in terms of dummy spits.
I am usually a big fan but when he carries on like a child it is time for him to go. Ants or elsewhere, I don't really mind. Just out of the ones for a while at least.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Judging from the grammar and spelling on this thread, I'd say the IQ is already pretty low.
Logic is harder to view objectively on such a site so shouldn't necessarily be included because passions run high but please, if you are going to talk about IQ, here is probably not a good place.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

I have him but I dropped him for last round as he was averaging about 65. Lucky me. One point this week.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

I'm not for trading Fevola, but the Cats took the right action to suspend the equally mercurial but troubled Steve Johnson and are reaping the rewards after he knuckled down. It's a shame we didn't take similar action with Fev, Scotland, Fisher and Lance over their incidents in the post-season and set the example for the young players.

More self preservation from Pagan.

Yet another black mark against Kernahan's football department and Pagan when our so called leaders aren't disciplined for their stuff ups. It's still hard to believe our newly appointed captain was out at 5 in the morning with a first year player and setting the example.

We shouldn't judge Collingwood's mishandling of Didak when we're no better and not even capable of winning a game.

I meant in a footballing sense, most of the people here don't have a clue.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Fevola should consider appearing more clean cut for the umpires - so they don't head hunt him.

I would like to see him with:

1) a neatly parted hair style

2) bandages to cover his tattoos

3) socks pulled up

4) guernsey tucked in

5) wearing after shave and cleanly shaven.

at the beginning of the match he should go up to the umpire and say - "hello sir. nice day for a game of football." There is no way they will give sissy free kicks against him after that. So too with Barry Hall - both appear too tough - they need to appear nice and appealing for the soccer mums.

Why is it that whenever we have a shocker of a game there has to be a scapegoat? Last week it was aintland, this week Fev next week will be waite etc. I saw allot worse than Fev during that game. Scotland constantly pointing to other defenders when his man got the mark/goal, midfielders happy to stay off their man and give no pressure what so ever leaving the defenders in a helpless situation. Absolutely no leadership or communication on the ground. Lack of intensity from almost all players gibbs, murph, carlos, kouta, waite (second half) and carrots excluded.
I made the comment a couple weeks back that there really lacks a team spirit and passion to play for each other. Fev for all his faults does play with passion most of the time and even when he spits the dummy, it's because he is fustrated with the team performances and only exuberates what all of us feel, yet we criticize him to act the same way as all of us do in the stands.
Fev should not be traded as FF with the ability and accuracy as Fev has are a very rare comodity and we can draft 5 chris judds before we find one Fev. The next coach of Carlton should have the choice of whether he wants Fev or not. Just because we have a coach that cannot get the team to gel and play for each other is no excuse to get rid of a player that plays that way. If we were to sack all of our selfish players then we won't have much of a team left. People I know your angry, but please the team is falling apart at the seams, lets not start pulling the threads apart.

yeh want about thornton, he sooks and gets into his teammated when his opponent gets the ball, anythin said bout him? Didnt think so.

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"I can't wait to win a premiership with this club" - Fev

Fev is matchwinner and plays with passion and spirit and will have his highs and lows,its part of the package.
This is a player who could win you a grand final and some of us want to get rid of him....get a decent game plan and he will give you good results.
He is also the media face of the club and the kids luv him....watch supporter numbers drop if he walks out the door..

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
training partner."
- Conor Gillen

Well at 11.30 dropping Fev will be a moot point as he is being dropped after Sat's showing.

Good stand by the club.

No one is above the team.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Yep great stand by the club and now Fev needs to pull his socks up.